Hi Peter, My comments below in Situ
On 28/01/2013, at 9:28 AM, Curtis Peter <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Ronni > On 27/01/2013, at 5:38 PM, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Peter, >> >> We have told people how to disable Java plenty of times on WAMUG. >> >> A simple way to see if you have Java installed is to open an application >> that requires it, and one of these that is included with OS X is the Java >> Preferences utility. >> Go to the /Applications/Utilities/ folder in OS X and launch the Java >> Preferences program, and if it opens and shows various configuration >> options, then you have Java installed; however, it if shows a message >> stating you need Java and provides you with an option to install it, then >> you do not have Java installed. > There is no Java Preferences program in my Utilities folder, I certainly > haven't removed it. You had not mentioned before that you were running Mountain Lion OS X 10.8.2. Java is not installed by default with Mountain Lion. The last java update on OS X removed the Java Preferences application from Utilities. "This update also removes the Java Preferences application, which is no longer required to configure applet settings." >> Or use Use the Terminal >> The OS X Terminal (in the /Applications/Utilities/ folder) provided access >> to a number of commands that can be used for looking up system information, >> and by running the following one in the Terminal you should be able to see >> in the output what Java runtimes (if any) are installed on your computer: >> sudo /usr/libexec/java_home > When running this (with trepidation) I get the following: > /System/Library/Java/JavaVirtualMachines/1.6.0.jdk/Contents/Home > Peter-Curtiss-MacBook-Pro:~ petercurtis$ > Last login: Mon Jan 28 08:59:20 on ttys000 > Peter-Curtiss-MacBook-Pro:~ petercurtis$ > > Does this mean I do or don't have Java. The Java folder is in the System Library, but you don't have any Java runtimes installed on your computer. You have disabled Java in Safari, so no problem. > And, having used terminal to get this message, do I just quit terminal to end? Just Quit Terminal > > I have a Macbook Pro running 10.8.2 Now we know thanks :) > > The query is just a general one coming out of the previous AppleJack > conversation. Fair enough. > > Kind regards > Peter Kind Regards, Ronni 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt" 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) > >> >> To check if Flash Player is installed on your computer >> <http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html> >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >> >> On 27/01/2013, at 5:14 PM, Curtis Peter <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> Just out of curiosity, how do you tell if you have java and/or flash? They >>> don't appear in your Applications Folder do they? >>> Kind regards >>> Peter >>> On 27/01/2013, at 4:34 PM, Peter Hinchliffe <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 25/01/2013, at 9:51 AM, Ken Jackson <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Ronni, >>>>> >>>>> have successfully removed Applejack. >>>>> Is there another program that will do what Applejack does that runs in ML? >>>>> >>>>> Is there a consensus by everyone as to the best malware protection for the >>>>> Mac? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks & regards, >>>>> >>>>> Ken >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ken Jackson >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Time to bring out the soapbox again... >>>> >>>> I doubt if you'll truly get a consensus on the best malware protection >>>> SOFTWARE for the Mac, since I personally don't think that such an animal >>>> exists (so any "consensus" certainly wouldn't include me!) but as far as >>>> the best malware PROTECTION is concerned (to answer your question >>>> literally), that's easy: it's your own behaviour. At this point in time, >>>> there are no true viruses on the Mac platform. There is a handful of >>>> examples of other exploitative software out there, but these all come >>>> under the classification of Trojan Horses, meaning that they require the >>>> permission of the user before they can affect your computer. They also >>>> invariably get to your Mac through third party software such as Java, >>>> Adobe Reader, Flash and a few others. The best advice is to keep your Mac >>>> OS up to date, and avoid using (or disabling completely) Java, Adobe >>>> Reader (Safari copes natively with 99% of the PDFs you're likely to come >>>> across) and Flash (install Click2Flash to reduce Flash proble > m >> >> s >>> t >>>> >>>> o an absolute minimum). >>>> >>>> Apart from this, all the usual personal behaviour rules apply: don't open >>>> attachments from unknown senders, don't download software from >>>> peer-to-peer sites, keep your OS up to date, don't reply to unsolicited >>>> emails, don't click on URLs in unsolicited emails. No software can protect >>>> you against any of this behaviour (even on Windows). >>>> >>>> Unlike Windows, there are still no reported cases of MacOS being infected >>>> by a virus (ie, software that arrives uninvited, without any interaction >>>> from the user, and is passed on to other computers ); and unlike OS X, >>>> even Windows 7 has been reported to have been infected in under 10 minutes >>>> on an unprotected computer. >>>> >>>> In my experience, the only thing at which most malware protection software >>>> for the Mac is successful is the slowing down of your computer with little >>>> to show for it, but if you truly feel that you need to install something, >>>> go for something unobtrusive like ClamAV (free) or ESET Cybersecurity >>>> (http://www.eset.com/ch-en/home/products/cybersecurity/ - not free but has >>>> a good reputation). >>>> >>>> Getting back down from the soapbox now... >>>> >>>> Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services >>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer >>>> Perth, Western Australia >>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482 Mob 0403 046 948 >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.wamug.org.au/pipermail/wamug.org.au-wamug/attachments/20130128/93416494/attachment.htm -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
