Yes Susan I understand all that... I know 'how' and 'why iOS 8 Requires So Much Free Space To Download and install OTA ;-)
"When you’re downloading a new system update like iOS 8, all the contents are stored in a compressed file. Once the download is complete, your iOS device will start unpacking that compressed file. Your iDevice needs enough storage to both handle the compressed file and all its uncompressed contents as the system reboots. In addition, it needs to be able to store the previous system version — in this case, iOS 7 — while the compressed system update and its uncompressed contents initialize and take effect. Once the update is complete, obviously, iOS 7 and the compressed file of iOS 8 will disappear, thus freeing up space on your iPhone or iPad again. At that point, you can reload your device with all your movies, music, and apps, which you hopefully backed up to your computer or the cloud." And it is quite possible that Laura has enough Available Space to install and use iOS 8 after she downloads and updates via connection to iTunes. She has not said how much available space she has on her iPad. I hope that ends this 'debate' and we can wait and see if Laura has success or not. Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > On 20 Sep 2014, at 3:08 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> wrote: > > http://gizmodo.com/how-to-download-ios-8-without-deleting-all-your-stuff-1635981856 > > > This article confirms my experience that you only need a lot of space for the > download Over wireless, once you have it installed it really only takes a > small extra amount of space. > Sent from my iPad > >> On 20 Sep 2014, at 3:02 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> There wasn't enough free space to download the updates on either my husbands >> ipad or the little 8gig iPhone 4s. However, they had no difficulty >> installing after connecting with iTunes, though I didn't check the n how >> much extra space they took up. Seems odd that it worked for me twice. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:44 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Susan, >>> >>> Yes, I understand that the download is a 1.63GB size... So Laura can >>> downloaded in iTunes without any issue. >>> BUT, Laura has said she does not have enough room to actually "Install" the >>> update once it is downloaded in Itunes. >>> >>> I had 17.30GBs Free before installing iOS 8 and after the installation >>> completed I had 16.0GBs Free. So Laura needs to have at least a few GBs of >>> Available space on her iPad to be able to Install and then actually be able >>> to Run/Use iOS 8. >>> >>> Similar to a computer... More Free space the OS performers better. >>> >>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>> >>> >>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:18 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ronni, the room is needed for the download, not the update itself. >>>> Which is why I did my husbands iPad and iPhone 4S via iTunes. The 4S is >>>> only 8 gig. So Lara should be able to update using iTunes. Cheers, Susan >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> But Laura, you don't have the room on your iPad to install iOS 8... >>>>> So what is the point in downloading the update if you can't install it? >>>>> >>>>> The iOS 8 update won't install until you free up the necessary space on >>>>> your iPad so it can be installed. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:02 pm, Laura Webb <el...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had >>>>>> not considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Laura >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to >>>>>>> download for my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again in >>>>>>> a day or so, which will be well after the rush. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb <el...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a >>>>>>>> next time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement >>>>>>>> might be a friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, >>>>>>>> preventing me from easily upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem >>>>>>>> warrants buying a portable storage drive. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Laura, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Do you have a 64GB iPad? >>>>>>>>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly >>>>>>>>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next >>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a >>>>>>>>> Portable Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb <el...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! I >>>>>>>>>> am aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to install >>>>>>>>>> the update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can delete items >>>>>>>>>> to gain more space but not sure I want to do that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” >>>>>>>>>> from the two options available i.e. download only or download and >>>>>>>>>> update. It started downloading then advised there were 15 hours >>>>>>>>>> remaining. Surely it is not meant to take that long. I cancelled and >>>>>>>>>> tried again this morning with the same result, so left it alone >>>>>>>>>> thinking well if it takes that long, so be it. Came back several >>>>>>>>>> hours later to find there was a message “an error has occurred”. I >>>>>>>>>> think it is all too hard. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Laura & Susan, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad >>>>>>>>>>> to download over the air and install. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac. >>>>>>>>>>> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from >>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually >>>>>>>>>>> transfer the new software back to your device. >>>>>>>>>>> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA >>>>>>>>>>> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check for >>>>>>>>>>> update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore iPhone." >>>>>>>>>>> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do Not >>>>>>>>>>> Upgrade to iCloud Drive >>>>>>>>>>> Apple hasn >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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