Hi Ronni Just before putting the debate to bed for the time being, I did say I have 3.4GB available on my iPad. I’ll now delete as many apps as I can to find another 3GB. The message on my iPad says I need at least 5.8GB. And yes I will make sure everything is backed up before I start deleting.
Kind regards Laura On 20 Sep 2014, at 3:25 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > Yes Susan I understand all that... I know 'how' and 'why iOS 8 Requires So > Much Free Space To Download and install OTA ;-) > > "When you’re downloading a new system update like iOS 8, all the contents are > stored in a compressed file. Once the download is complete, your iOS device > will start unpacking that compressed file. Your iDevice needs enough storage > to both handle the compressed file and all its uncompressed contents as the > system reboots. > > In addition, it needs to be able to store the previous system version — in > this case, iOS 7 — while the compressed system update and its uncompressed > contents initialize and take effect. > > Once the update is complete, obviously, iOS 7 and the compressed file of iOS > 8 will disappear, thus freeing up space on your iPhone or iPad again. At that > point, you can reload your device with all your movies, music, and apps, > which you hopefully backed up to your computer or the cloud." > > And it is quite possible that Laura has enough Available Space to install and > use iOS 8 after she downloads and updates via connection to iTunes. > > She has not said how much available space she has on her iPad. > > I hope that ends this 'debate' and we can wait and see if Laura has success > or not. > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Sent from Ronni's iPad4 > > > On 20 Sep 2014, at 3:08 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> wrote: > >> http://gizmodo.com/how-to-download-ios-8-without-deleting-all-your-stuff-1635981856 >> >> >> This article confirms my experience that you only need a lot of space for >> the download Over wireless, once you have it installed it really only takes >> a small extra amount of space. >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 3:02 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> There wasn't enough free space to download the updates on either my >>> husbands ipad or the little 8gig iPhone 4s. However, they had no difficulty >>> installing after connecting with iTunes, though I didn't check the n how >>> much extra space they took up. Seems odd that it worked for me twice. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:44 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Susan, >>>> >>>> Yes, I understand that the download is a 1.63GB size... So Laura can >>>> downloaded in iTunes without any issue. >>>> BUT, Laura has said she does not have enough room to actually "Install" >>>> the update once it is downloaded in Itunes. >>>> >>>> I had 17.30GBs Free before installing iOS 8 and after the installation >>>> completed I had 16.0GBs Free. So Laura needs to have at least a few GBs of >>>> Available space on her iPad to be able to Install and then actually be >>>> able to Run/Use iOS 8. >>>> >>>> Similar to a computer... More Free space the OS performers better. >>>> >>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:18 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni, the room is needed for the download, not the update itself. >>>>> Which is why I did my husbands iPad and iPhone 4S via iTunes. The 4S is >>>>> only 8 gig. So Lara should be able to update using iTunes. Cheers, Susan >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:15 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> But Laura, you don't have the room on your iPad to install iOS 8... >>>>>> So what is the point in downloading the update if you can't install it? >>>>>> >>>>>> The iOS 8 update won't install until you free up the necessary space on >>>>>> your iPad so it can be installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 2:02 pm, Laura Webb <el...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Susan, that's about the time span I would have expected. I had >>>>>>> not considered "the rush" aspect so will keep trying. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:39 pm, Susan Hastings <susanhasti...@mac.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Laura, it took less than half an hour for the iOS 8 update to >>>>>>>> download for my husband’s iPad. I think it may be worth trying again >>>>>>>> in a day or so, which will be well after the rush. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 1:24 pm, Laura Webb <el...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have 32GB and yes I know I should have gone for 64GB. If there is a >>>>>>>>> next time for me that's what I'll do. Whilst the 5.5GB requirement >>>>>>>>> might be a friendly reminder from Apple it is still, for now, >>>>>>>>> preventing me from easily upgrading to iOS8. Not sure the problem >>>>>>>>> warrants buying a portable storage drive. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 12:16 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Laura, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Do you have a 64GB iPad? >>>>>>>>>> If anything, the 5.7 GB requirement to update to iOS 8 is a friendly >>>>>>>>>> reminder from Apple that you may need to splurge for the 64GB next >>>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps you need to take a lot of 'stuff' off your iPad and onto a >>>>>>>>>> Portable Wireless Storage LaCie FUEL Drive? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 20 Sep 2014, at 11:43 am, Laura Webb <el...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your advice. Not sure I am meant to have this upgrade!! >>>>>>>>>>> I am aware of the size but there is a requirement for 5.8GB to >>>>>>>>>>> install the update. I have 3.4GB remaining. Yes I suppose I can >>>>>>>>>>> delete items to gain more space but not sure I want to do that. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Last evening I connected iPad to MBP, chose “download and update” >>>>>>>>>>> from the two options available i.e. download only or download and >>>>>>>>>>> update. It started downloading then advised there were 15 hours >>>>>>>>>>> remaining. Surely it is not meant to take that long. I cancelled >>>>>>>>>>> and tried again this morning with the same result, so left it alone >>>>>>>>>>> thinking well if it takes that long, so be it. Came back several >>>>>>>>>>> hours later to find there was a message “an error has occurred”. I >>>>>>>>>>> think it is all too hard. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>> Laura >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 4:40 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Laura & Susan, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Susan, Laura mentioned she has insufficient free space on her iPad >>>>>>>>>>>> to download over the air and install. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have insufficient space on my iPad to download the upgrade >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Laura, the iOS 8 download size in 1.63GB >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest you connect your iPad to your Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>> I also then did a 'backup to Computer' first. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sync your iPad to the computer and download iOS 8 directly from >>>>>>>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>>> This won't take up any space on your device, and you can manually >>>>>>>>>>>> transfer the new software back to your device. >>>>>>>>>>>> Updating via your Mac is more reliable way to upgrade, versus OTA >>>>>>>>>>>> (over-the-air), which is performed directly on the device. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you're taking this alternate route, be sure to select "check >>>>>>>>>>>> for update" when the prompt pops up on iTunes — not "restore >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone." >>>>>>>>>>>> The latter option will indeed wipe all content from your device. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you have read my previous posts to the list: iOS 8 Users: Do >>>>>>>>>>>> Not Upgrade to iCloud Drive >>>>>>>>>>>> Apple hasn >>>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
