Oops I forgot to also mention -NOTE On first launch, Photos asks if you’d like to use iCloud Photo Library. I would recommend you DON’T use iCloud Photo Library at this time.
> On 27 Apr 2015, at 11:39 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh Peter, > > I said I would get back to you when possible, I wish you had waited. I am > busy with Clients work and really don’t have time at present but reading your > email I decided to reply to try to explain quickly how the process works. > > What you are now doing is Creating a NEW iPhoto Library (Duplicating all the > Media Files in iPhoto Library package)! > You are not understanding the iPhoto & Photos Directory structure... and how > ‘Hard Links’ work so there is no duplication or extra space required on the > system. > > The Transition/Import from iPhoto to Photos has to be done on your wife’s MBP > where the Library files are in the correct locations to link the two > libraries using ‘Hard Links’. > > Hard Facts about Hard Links > On import, Photos makes a Hard Link to all iPhoto media assets in its own > library package, using the same directory structure as iPhoto (The libraries > say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re sharing disk space > via hard links). > Think of hard links as a cousin of Finder aliases—rather than existing in one > place with an alias in a different location, files that are 'hard linked' > appear to live in two places at once, but only take up the space of a single > file. > > Your old library won't be converted, just imported, so you can still open it > in Aperture or iPhoto if you like (though once you import, if you do anything > new with that library in Aperture, it won't carry over to the Photos version). > > So what happens if you edit one of those files? Something clever: if I edit a > file from a migrated iPhoto library in Photoshop, that version is altered—but > the version in the Photos library is untouched. > Basically, the act of modifying a hard-linked file causes the link to break. > Now there are two different files, both taking up disk space, living > independently. > For Mac users accustomed to the a-file-is-a-file approach of the Finder, this > one’s a bit of a head-scratcher, but it’s a smart move by Apple to allow us > to migrate to Photos without duplicating an entire library and eating all of > our free disk space—or worse, never bothering to upgrade to Photos because we > don’t have the room. > > The new Photos library references the same master images as your old library, > so you don't need the space to store images twice. It also makes for an > incredibly efficient migration process. > --- > But because of your initial (dare I say - stuffup) this hasn’t happened. How > to correct it?? I need more information - what is on your wife’s MBP. > From what I can ascertain from your emails - > A). On your wife's MBP in her User Home Folder > Pictures - there are these > two files "iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibary” and "Photos > Library.photoslibrary"… Is this correct? > B). And your wife's MBP only has ONE iPhoto Library on her system... is this > correct? > C). And when you try to open PHOTOS on her MBP it doesn’t open... is this > correct - or what happens? > > One suggestion I will make: > On her MBP - If she double-clicks on the "Photos Library.photoslibrary" does > it open in PHOTOS? > If NOT > Hold down the Option key as you open the PHOTOS app in the Dock to see the > 'Choose Library dialog' window. > Click 'Other Library' > Select the 'iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary' > See if that completes the ‘preparing for import’ > > Cheers, > Ronni > > >> On 27 Apr 2015, at 6:26 am, [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Thanks Ronni. I think I've cracked it. I opened iPhoto with Option held and >> selected "Create New". I set a new location for the new database library >> file. Once that was set up, I then selected Import and pointed to the >> "transitioning" iPhoto Library that I've been unable to open up in the >> conventional way. So last night it was able to commence the import of the >> photos and i can see the images on screen as it counts down. The >> transitioning Library was ~250GB and I had no choice but to let it proceed >> when it asked "confirm you have enough disc space" - I had ~750GB free on my >> 2TB drive which at the time seemed enough. Once it had started, it said >> "Importing 335,000 photos"!!! I don't recall there ever being that many, >> however, it was still Importing this morning with 225,000 to go but only >> 250GB space left. I think it will run out of space at that rate.Oh well, I >> am not so worried about that, at least I have now got a way to access them. >> I will get myself another 2TB drive and when I am home will start the >> process again. I am somewhat puzzled though that it is now apparently much >> larger than it was. Perhaps there is a compression that can be done or maybe >> this is all a consequence of the process of how I've got into this pickle. >> >> Maybe there is still another method to properly unpick the library without >> resorting to an Import process. I am keen to hear if you or anyone else has >> encountered this and methods for unpicking the mess I've got myself into. >> >> Regards >> >> Pete. >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> To: >> "[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: >> >> Sent: >> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:53:44 +0800 >> Subject: >> Re: iPhoto to Photos migration >> >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> I haven't got time tonight, but I will get back to your problem when >> possible. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> Sent from Ronni's iPad4 >> >> >> On 26 Apr 2015, at 4:20 pm, [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Ronni, yes I feel a real goose for the steps I took (in hindsight). >> >> As I work away (and am away from home for a further 2 odd weeks), I placed a >> copy of both (iPhoto and Photos) library files onto my 2TB external drive >> and using my Retina MBP to try and unpick this mess remotely from my Wifes >> MBP. A necessity as this happened the day prior to my departure. >> >> So i have the two files "iPhoto Library" and "Photos Library" both sitting >> within one folder on the external drive (each file is saying around 295GB >> from Get Info but not identical sizes). They are also still in place in the >> User>Photos folder on my Wife's MBP as I restored the iPhoto library from >> Trash using the "Put Back" command. >> >> When I attempt to open the iPhoto library (using the Option key method on my >> Retina), it reflects as iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary Which would >> suggest that the library underwent the start of its transformation in >> readiness to be 'hard linked' with the Photos library. But the >> transformation was never completed. >> >> I do not have a backup I can revert to at any stage prior to the update - >> coz I blew away the Sparesebundle! >> >> Pete. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> To: >> "WAMUG" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Cc: >> >> Sent: >> Sun, 26 Apr 2015 15:38:45 +0800 >> Subject: >> Re: iPhoto to Photos migration >> >> >> Hello Peter, >> >> Sounds like you have really messed up the transition/import of iPhoto >> Library to Photos... and then did a Time Machine backup BEFORE testing >> everything was working correctly.... >> >> The first time you launch Photos, it searches your system for iPhoto and >> Aperture libraries. If only one library fits the bill, it imports that >> library. Otherwise, it opens the Choose Library dialog window - Choose a >> library from the list, and Photos prepares the library for import. >> >> Photos needs to prepare your iPhoto Library before it imports into a new >> Photos library. >> When you import an iPhoto library into Photos, your existing library remains >> intact. The net result of the import is that you’ll have two separate >> libraries on your Mac’s drive: your old iPhoto library and a new Photos >> library >> >> The Import does NOT duplicate iPhoto Library but uses “Hard Links". Your >> iPhoto Library remains intact, BUT a new Photos Library comes into being. >> The Libraries say they’re roughly the same size, but in fact, they’re >> 'sharing disk space' via ‘hard links’. >> >> After the successful transition ‘Migration' from iPhoto to Photos you will >> have in your User > Pictures folder - 2 separate Libraries: >> "iPhoto Library.migratedphotolibrary” AND “Photos Library.photoslibrary" >> >> On 25 Apr 2015, at 9:30 am, [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Last week I updated my wife's 2012 MBP to latest OSX which brought the new >> Photos application. I had done my own 2014 Retina MBP previously without >> issue and have all my images carried over into Photos without a hitch >> >> The issue with my Wife's machine is I did the update and am unable to see >> the images in Photos. I just get the intro screen with the 4 options for a >> new user. I've done the "Option" whilst starting it up and directed it to >> the new Photo Library file and still nothing. The Photo Library file shows >> in Get Info of 295GB so it would appear to be a file containing the picture >> and video files but how do I access it? >> >> An issue potentially caused by me was that after the update, I ran a >> cleaner (Cleanmymac) and it did some cleaning. I did in my travels after the >> cleaning notice in the Trash can was the old iPhoto Library!!! I assume this >> was an action of cleanmymac. So I selected "Put Back" and it in turn is now >> placed alongside the Photos Library in the default Apple folder location. >> >> It was only after this that I opened Photos for the first time and I suspect >> that upon first opening, it runs a script which does the migration (but not >> duplication) of image files. >> >> Oh goodness... Yes, that is correct. The first time Photos is opened (as >> I’ve mentioned above) the transition (Import from iPhoto) is run. >> But you are saying your wife’s iPhoto Library was not in the correct >> location in Pictures... but was sitting in the Trash! >> >> It gets worse - much worse I am afraid. >> >> I don’t want to read anymore :( >> >> During the update I turned Time Machine off to prevent unwanted backups >> during the process of updating. I think this is a recommended practice >> anyway. Well, after the dust settled (but before running Photos) I turned TM >> back on and it goes through the Preparing Backup routine for a looong while >> and then says Backing Up 325GB!!! I pressed the cross to stop that and >> thought about it a bit. Running low on TM disc space and having done this >> previously (and never once having had to call upon the TM backup to retrieve >> anything in the 6 years of Mac ownership) decided I would delete the >> Sparesebundle file and do a new Backup from scratch . I suspect that the >> Preparing Backup routine spotted the iPhoto Library in the Trash and the >> Photos library in its normal home and detected there are two libraries to >> back up hence the order of magnitude of the backup. >> >> Anyway, now that I am over this, I still have the problem where neither >> iPhoto nor Photos will open showing my wifes previous images. >> >> When I launch iPhoto - I get a message "Aperture needs updating" so when I >> try that, it says the version of Aperture required is not available in the >> Australian Apple Store - so no good there >> >> When I launch Photos - I get the first time user screen. If I select Albums, >> I see the greyed image of the previous Events folders as Albums and the >> names of Albums are accurate per the previous iPhotos Events folder, but >> upon opening, nothing is visible. Still no images. >> >> Whilst in hindsight some of my actions have been not very good, I still >> don't understand why I can get at my images/videos? >> >> Whilst in hindsight now ‘some’ but almost all your actions have not been >> good from what I can ascertain from your email :( >> >> Anyone have any ideas how to get out of this pickle? >> >> Let us now exactly what Library files you have in User > Pictures please - >> and also if you have a backup of your wife’s iPhoto Library BEFORE you did >> the Update to OS X 10.10.3? >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Intel Quad-Core i7 >> 2.3GHz / 16GB / 1TB 840 EVO SSD >> >> OS X Yosemite 10.10.3 >> >> Pete :(
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