Hi
Try googling fttn and fttp there is a good answer there
Cheers. John

Sent from my iPad

> On 15 May 2016, at 8:21 PM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, thanks for your lengthy response here below. I hope you and others 
> don't mind this thread being of non-Mac specifics though I suspect others 
> leveraging off your obvious well founded technical input here.
> 
> Anyway, yes you're right the stock standard Westnet base offer is a Netphone 
> (not a fibre phone) and I see with your notes below I can think further which 
> way we prefer to go at home.
> 
> Your first question "is my NBN FTTP or FTTN". I'm sorry I don't have a clue 
> how to answer this. It has just been installed up to the house outer wall and 
> the interior installation is yet to happen. Is the FTTP or FTTN a function of 
> the hardware inside or outside the house or a function of the plan I select 
> (which I am yet to decide on) or both or something else altogether? Sorry I 
> am just dipping my toe into this and don't have much to go on.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 15 May 2016, at 11:38 AM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> Is your NBN FTTP? I’m assuming it is, but I don’t think you have mentioned 
>> if it is FTTP or FTTN.
>> 
>> My comments in situ below.
>> 
>>> On 15 May 2016, at 7:33 AM, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni, two further questions if I may ask.
>>> 
>>> It seems from your configuration, you plugged your Airport Time Capsule 
>>> directly to the NBN hardware unit (NTD). I see in the Westnet blurb they 
>>> indicate some may need a Wifi modem. I have a 3TB Time Capsule and wonder 
>>> do I need the "wifi modem" they're indicating? I suspect not.
>> 
>> Send the link in the ‘Westnet blurb’ please…. I think you might be referring 
>> to Netphone?
>> 
>> Your Time Capsule is your Wi-Fi Wireless Network.
>> Plug the Time Capsule WAN port with an ethernet cable CAT-6 into the UNI-D 1 
>> of the NBN NTD that will be installed on your wall and off you go. 
>> 
>> The TC does all the routing for you. No need for extra modems etc etc.
>>> 
>>> The Westnet plans also indicate a Netphone service is provided - using my 
>>> regular phone. Is this the same as the fibre phone you've got and what are 
>>> the differences if any? I wish to keep my landline number as you did too.
>> 
>> NO
>> What is the key difference between Netphone and Fibre Phone? 
>> 
>> The main difference between Netphone and Fibre Phone is that Netphone runs 
>> over your broadband connection, and Fibre Phone uses the Voice port on the 
>> NBN box.
>> Netphone VoIP service means your phone calls will need to travel through one 
>> of the UNI-D ports. 
>> 
>> The Fibre Phone service has battery backup (so will work in a power outage) 
>> and is the closest thing to the copper telephone line of today. 
>> Since Netphone relies on your broadband connection being available, it will 
>> not work in a power outage.
>> 
>> * Fibre Phone does not require a VoIP ATA (like a BoB) and instead is 
>> registered through the NBN NTD, unlike Netphone.
>> * Fibre Phone comes with dedicated bandwidth meaning calls do not have to 
>> contend with internet traffic, unlike Netphone. 
>> 
>> * Fibre Phone is battery backed up and usable in the event of a power 
>> outage, unlike Netphone.
>> * Fibre Phone can only be used at the premises via the supplied hardware. 
>> 
>> <http://www.westnet.com.au/internet/broadband/nbn/fibre-phone>
>> 
>> <https://www.westnet.com.au/internet-plans/broadband/nbn/plans#/netphone-accordion>
>> 
>> <https://www.westnet.com.au/about/legal/cis/cis-voip.pdf>
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.4
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>>> On 14 May 2016, at 11:17 AM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In fairness to Westnet, My NBN connection was in the very early days... I 
>>>> was one of Westnet/iiNet first connections from ADSL to NBN.
>>>> 
>>>> So yes, some mistakes were made in the early days and mine almost got me 
>>>> to file a 'Breach Of Contract' with them as they had failed to fulfill all 
>>>> of its contractual obligations.
>>>> The problem was sorted...
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 14 May 2016, at 10:49 AM, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Thanks for that Ronni, it would be frustrating to find out they "loose" 
>>>>> your phone number and that is enough to put people off it. It should be 
>>>>> military precision as this is their core business managing peoples 
>>>>> affairs like this!
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> The jury is getting closer to a decision .......
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Pete.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From:
>>>>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>>>>> 
>>>>> To:
>>>>> "WAMUG" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
>>>>> Cc:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent:
>>>>> Sat, 14 May 2016 10:43:54 +0800
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> Re: NBN providers
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been on NBN Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) with Westnet/iiNet since 
>>>>> April 2014.
>>>>> NBN Residential 8 Plan (100GB + 100GB) + 50/20Mbps + Fibre Phone)$74.95 + 
>>>>> $19.95 = $94.90 mth. 
>>>>> I chose Fibre Phone so I could keep my current landline phone number I 
>>>>> have had for “Ever” ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> After the NBN guys  completed the laying of cable to my house and 
>>>>> installing of the NBN Fibre Wall Outlet, NBN Power Supply Unit & NTD 
>>>>> (Network Termination Device) in my house it was very quick and easy for 
>>>>> me to connect my equipment and get my Network connected and activated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My NBN FTTP Setup:
>>>>> Equipment:  3TB Airport Time Capsule (4th Generation) and Oricom eco5200 
>>>>> phone
>>>>> Connections: 3TB Airport Time Capsule (4th Generation) connected via 
>>>>> Ethernet CAT-6 cable from Time Capsule WAN port to UNI-D 1 Port on NTD 
>>>>> (Network Termination Device), and my Oricom eco5200 Phone cable to UNI-V 
>>>>> 1 Port on NTD.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Checked my Dual-Band Network settings - Router Mode: DHCP and NAT 
>>>>> remained the same and checked all my Macs (3), iPad & iPhone connected. 
>>>>> Ran Speed tests and generally tested my Network thoroughly… all worked 
>>>>> well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Westnet’s actions were:
>>>>> 1. Wait to confirm the NBN service is fully working
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Cancel the ADSL service, and wait 2-3days for your ADSL codes to drop 
>>>>> off your phone line.
>>>>> NB We wont cancel the home phone (as we need the number active to port it)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. When the codes are dropped, we will then submit a request to convert 
>>>>> you home number into a VOIP number.
>>>>> Process takes 5-7 biz days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4. Then you will have the exact same number, as a VOIP number and no one 
>>>>> will know the difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Other than a mishap that caused Westnet to loose  my phone number (for a 
>>>>> month or so) when they went to port it...
>>>>> Eventually my phone number was located held in quarantine by Telstra… now 
>>>>> that’s a story in itself that I won’t bore you with!!!
>>>>> I haven’t experienced any problems.
>>>>> I’m relatively pleased with the speeds I’m downloading and uploading at - 
>>>>> of course speed is never fast enough for us ;-)
>>>>> Over my Airport Wi-Fi Network I achieve around these speeds: 
>>>>> Download Speed 47.73Mbps - Upload Speed 19.20Mbps
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>>>> 
>>>>> El Capitan OS X 10.11.4
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 May 2016, at 10:51 PM, Gordon Wragg <gordo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My ADSL with Westnet was great, but the NBN is way better.  I am on the 
>>>>> 50/20 plan and no complaints.  Just remember that those speeds will 
>>>>> depend on other user activity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Westnet advise of any down time well ahead and such times are often 
>>>>> during off peak anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Very happy with Westnet and NBN.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gordon
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 13 May 2016 at 19:54, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi muggers, I have been with Westnet for many years with an ADSL service 
>>>>>> and pretty bulletproof the whole time. Service has been good when it has 
>>>>>> been called upon so can't complain really. Recently NBN is installed in 
>>>>>> my street and is now available. I looked online and see there are 119 
>>>>>> potential providers I could use!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Westnet/iiNet rate VERY poorly in online reviews of their NBN service 
>>>>>> but this maybe skewed by disgruntled people which I'm sure exist with 
>>>>>> all providers but I am seeking further feedback
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Optus and Westnet both rate well and a bit dearer that Westnet.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone here got any first hand transition experience from ADSL to NBN 
>>>>>> and provider experience?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd rather not change my email address if I can help it too.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pete
>> 
>> 
>> 
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