Hi Peter,

What you are seeing in Keychain Access below is all rather normal.

Re: Disk Utility - High Sierra
A standard macOS startup APFS container does contain additional volumes to the 
volume with macOS installed on it. 
You can list these with diskutil apfs list. The standard configuration of such 
a container is as follows:

disk1s1, the volume you boot from, mounted at /, shown in Disk Utility as 
Macintosh HD
disk1s2, ‘Preboot’, not mounted, hidden
disk1s3, ‘Recovery’, not mounted, hidden
disk1s4, ‘VM’, mounted at /private/var/vm, hidden

The last 3 are grouped as Other Volumes in Disk Utility. 
They're required by macOS and shouldn't be removed.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.4

> On 21 Apr 2018, at 2:18 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, firstly, yes I hope the WCE can do the proper business. We shall 
> see.
> 
> I had a browse around Keychain Access the other day but was to wary to edit 
> anything so I didn’t. But I had a look again now and there is no Keychain 
> First Aid routine in the latest OSX High Sierra. Some web browsing confirm 
> Apple quietly removed it due to some potential vulnerabilities. In the 
> Keychain Access window there are numerous rows of information representing 
> “Name_Time Capsule” some with Kind is network password and others Airport 
> Disk password. Attributes on thee network password kind say Account: No User 
> account (dated 2017) and the Airport Disk password  kind say Account: Peter 
> Crisp - but these are dated 2014.
> 
> So I ran the Boot volume First AId and it completed successfully.  In running 
> that I noted that in the storage representation bar for the Mac HD has a 
> “Used” section to the bar (101GB) and “Other Volumes” (2.82GB) and the rest 
> Free 146GB. I don’t know what “Other Volumes” is. Is that normal?
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
> 
> On 21 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Peter,
>> 
>> I just caught up with this thread... sorry for late reply.
>> But have you tried ‘Keychain First Aid’?
>> Since problems with passwords are likely due to the keychain, open the 
>> "Keychain Access" utility and run the "Keychain First Aid" routine 
>> (available in the "Keychain Access" menu) on all keychains. 
>> 
>> After this, if the problem still persists, try running a permissions fix on 
>> the boot drive using "Disk Utility", which should ensure all files on the 
>> boot drive are properly accessible.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Ronni 
>> PS. Best of luck with your Eagles today... smash Carlton ;-)
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 7:18 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Further to this, I might add that I am on High Sierra 10.13.4 (MBP Retina 
>>> 2013) and those that have experienced it previously indicated it was with 
>>> the recent update/s and for those people it was not an issue previous to 
>>> recent updates.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the sequence of updates for me along with other extraneous things 
>>> has lead to this and being limited to those others duplicating that 
>>> scenario.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 7:14 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ronni, yes you’re right. I have been doing this every time opening the 
>>>> Finder, Press “Connect as” and then enter password. Every time I do this, 
>>>> I select the “keep my password in my Keychain”. Every time I do it again, 
>>>> it asks for me to enter password again. So I do, and also select the “keep 
>>>> my password in my Keychain”. Each time entering the password, I am 
>>>> successful as being connected as “Peter C...” and not Guest so it is ok in 
>>>> that respect. But the fact that the keeping of password is not being kept 
>>>> is forcing me to enter it each time. 
>>>> 
>>>> I did some Apple Support reading and other’s have experienced the same 
>>>> failure to have the keychain remember the entered password, means each 
>>>> time it needs re-entering. Is there a way to remove the password from the 
>>>> keychain and start the process over again and perhaps trigger the 
>>>> remembering process for the OS?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Pete
>>>> 
>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 9:24 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi again Peter,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I probably should explain more re my last reply.
>>>>> In the Finder sidebar under shared is your ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ 
>>>>> (whatever you named it). 
>>>>> When you click it, then click ‘Connect As’ you are attempting to connect 
>>>>> to the server ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ click connect put the password for 
>>>>> the Time Capsule and then you see the ‘Data’ folder and on the far right 
>>>>> side of screen under ‘Kind’ is ‘Sharepoint’ 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 6:51 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network.
>>>>>> Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in 
>>>>>>> place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect 
>>>>>>> to. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a 
>>>>>>> “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution 
>>>>>>> process.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one 
>>>>>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi 
>>>>>>>>> network and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect 
>>>>>>>>> to one network (the same as one used by registered users) but be 
>>>>>>>>> connected as a Guest? That's how it seems to me.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:n...@possumology.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time 
>>>>>>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network 
>>>>>>>>>> that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate 
>>>>>>>>>> networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or 
>>>>>>>>>> guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish which was 
>>>>>>>>>> which.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network 
>>>>>>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can 
>>>>>>>>>> see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is 
>>>>>>>>>> not currently on, it is remembered.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your 
>>>>>>>>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – 
>>>>>>>>>> maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but 
>>>>>>>>>> it should be an easy check.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Neil
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> Neil R. Houghton
>>>>>>>>>> Albany, Western Australia
>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>>>>>>>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com <mailto:n...@possumology.com>
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au>> on behalf of 
>>>>>>>>>> Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>>
>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18
>>>>>>>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are 
>>>>>>>>>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding 
>>>>>>>>>> with correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place 
>>>>>>>>>> as for the moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent 
>>>>>>>>>> thanks Ronni once again for your input on this one. <>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Pete
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now 
>>>>>>>>>> connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your 
>>>>>>>>>> administrator name you have always connected with. 
>>>>>>>>>> Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band  Network, not the 
>>>>>>>>>> 2.5GHz? 
>>>>>>>>>> Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network.
>>>>>>>>>> Are your Time Machine backups working correctly?
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more 
>>>>>>>>>> thought overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish 
>>>>>>>>>> tonight.
>>>>>>>>>> I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up 
>>>>>>>>>> a Guest network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all 
>>>>>>>>>> that time I have never used a Guest network nor seen the need to so 
>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to delete it - but don’t know how to. If I did delete the 
>>>>>>>>>> Guest network, would that prevent me auto connecting and hence 
>>>>>>>>>> interrupt the TC backups going on? I’d prefer to delete the Guest 
>>>>>>>>>> network after I’ve resolved the auto connect as Admin.
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Pete.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter,
>>>>>>>>>> Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network 
>>>>>>>>>> allows you to share you connection with guests to your house without 
>>>>>>>>>> endangering your main network with all of your devices. 
>>>>>>>>>> It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead 
>>>>>>>>>> of one.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au 
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time 
>>>>>>>>>> Capsule in my house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is 
>>>>>>>>>> just a recent thing as I would have recognised before now over the 8 
>>>>>>>>>> years odd I’ve had it. I can’t think what may have changed this but 
>>>>>>>>>> wonder how I can actually alter this so my connection is in my own 
>>>>>>>>>> name - as I am known to the network as? I had a bit of a Google 
>>>>>>>>>> around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate this one.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids 
>>>>>>>>>> Macbooks default connection either has their name or Administrator. 
>>>>>>>>>> Whilst this isn’t a security concern to me with them so much but I 
>>>>>>>>>> am puzzled why the network “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so 
>>>>>>>>>> far as the TC connection goes!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my 
>>>>>>>>>> apparent admin status seems in order.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Any tips from anyone?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Pete
>> 


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