Hi Ronni thanks for this. I figured the other volumes would have a logical explanation.
After having run the Disk Utility> First Aid process now my connection to the Time Capsule has me connecting as “Peter Crisp” straight off the bat - without the need for entering password. It does take a moment to connect but at least now the password is remembered. I think I can for now assume that my Guest status on my own network has been returned to my true identity. Thank you and Neil for tips in getting there. Regards Pete > On 22 Apr 2018, at 8:33 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: > > In simple language…. > The "other volumes" are preboot, recovery, and vm (virtual memory). > They are part of a standard APFS boot volume. > > The vm volume will take up most of the space as it supplements your Ram to > store things too big for Ram. > > A "container" in APFS is much like a partition in other file > systems/partition schemes. > A container will contain a number of virtual "volumes." they are "virtual" in > that the volumes of a container all share the storage space of the container. > > Regards, > Ronni > >> On 22 Apr 2018, at 8:26 am, Ronni Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> What you are seeing in Keychain Access below is all rather normal. >> >> Re: Disk Utility - High Sierra >> A standard macOS startup APFS container does contain additional volumes to >> the volume with macOS installed on it. >> You can list these with diskutil apfs list. The standard configuration of >> such a container is as follows: >> >> disk1s1, the volume you boot from, mounted at /, shown in Disk Utility as >> Macintosh HD >> disk1s2, ‘Preboot’, not mounted, hidden >> disk1s3, ‘Recovery’, not mounted, hidden >> disk1s4, ‘VM’, mounted at /private/var/vm, hidden >> >> The last 3 are grouped as Other Volumes in Disk Utility. >> They're required by macOS and shouldn't be removed. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >> >> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >> >>> On 21 Apr 2018, at 2:18 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronni, firstly, yes I hope the WCE can do the proper business. We shall >>> see. >>> >>> I had a browse around Keychain Access the other day but was to wary to edit >>> anything so I didn’t. But I had a look again now and there is no Keychain >>> First Aid routine in the latest OSX High Sierra. Some web browsing confirm >>> Apple quietly removed it due to some potential vulnerabilities. In the >>> Keychain Access window there are numerous rows of information representing >>> “Name_Time Capsule” some with Kind is network password and others Airport >>> Disk password. Attributes on thee network password kind say Account: No >>> User account (dated 2017) and the Airport Disk password kind say Account: >>> Peter Crisp - but these are dated 2014. >>> >>> So I ran the Boot volume First AId and it completed successfully. In >>> running that I noted that in the storage representation bar for the Mac HD >>> has a “Used” section to the bar (101GB) and “Other Volumes” (2.82GB) and >>> the rest Free 146GB. I don’t know what “Other Volumes” is. Is that normal? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Pete >>> >>>> On 21 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> I just caught up with this thread... sorry for late reply. >>>> But have you tried ‘Keychain First Aid’? >>>> Since problems with passwords are likely due to the keychain, open the >>>> "Keychain Access" utility and run the "Keychain First Aid" routine >>>> (available in the "Keychain Access" menu) on all keychains. >>>> >>>> After this, if the problem still persists, try running a permissions fix >>>> on the boot drive using "Disk Utility", which should ensure all files on >>>> the boot drive are properly accessible. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ronni >>>> PS. Best of luck with your Eagles today... smash Carlton ;-) >>>> >>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 7:18 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Further to this, I might add that I am on High Sierra 10.13.4 (MBP Retina >>>>> 2013) and those that have experienced it previously indicated it was with >>>>> the recent update/s and for those people it was not an issue previous to >>>>> recent updates. >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps the sequence of updates for me along with other extraneous things >>>>> has lead to this and being limited to those others duplicating that >>>>> scenario. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 7:14 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ronni, yes you’re right. I have been doing this every time opening >>>>>> the Finder, Press “Connect as” and then enter password. Every time I do >>>>>> this, I select the “keep my password in my Keychain”. Every time I do it >>>>>> again, it asks for me to enter password again. So I do, and also select >>>>>> the “keep my password in my Keychain”. Each time entering the password, >>>>>> I am successful as being connected as “Peter C...” and not Guest so it >>>>>> is ok in that respect. But the fact that the keeping of password is not >>>>>> being kept is forcing me to enter it each time. >>>>>> >>>>>> I did some Apple Support reading and other’s have experienced the same >>>>>> failure to have the keychain remember the entered password, means each >>>>>> time it needs re-entering. Is there a way to remove the password from >>>>>> the keychain and start the process over again and perhaps trigger the >>>>>> remembering process for the OS? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 9:24 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi again Peter, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I probably should explain more re my last reply. >>>>>>> In the Finder sidebar under shared is your ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ >>>>>>> (whatever you named it). >>>>>>> When you click it, then click ‘Connect As’ you are attempting to >>>>>>> connect to the server ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ click connect put the >>>>>>> password for the Time Capsule and then you see the ‘Data’ folder and on >>>>>>> the far right side of screen under ‘Kind’ is ‘Sharepoint’ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 6:51 am, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network. >>>>>>>> Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have >>>>>>>>> in place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house >>>>>>>>> connect to. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a >>>>>>>>> “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution >>>>>>>>> process. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one >>>>>>>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi >>>>>>>>>>> network and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to >>>>>>>>>>> connect to one network (the same as one used by registered users) >>>>>>>>>>> but be connected as a Guest? That's how it seems to me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a >>>>>>>>>>>> time capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest >>>>>>>>>>>> network that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as >>>>>>>>>>>> separate networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as >>>>>>>>>>>> user or guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish >>>>>>>>>>>> which was which. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your >>>>>>>>>>>> network preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, >>>>>>>>>>>> eg I can see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the >>>>>>>>>>>> hotspot is not currently on, it is remembered. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set >>>>>>>>>>>> your preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you >>>>>>>>>>>> prefer) – maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but >>>>>>>>>>>> it should be an easy check. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>>>>>>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>>>>>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>>>>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of >>>>>>>>>>>> Peter Crisp <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>>>>>>>>>>> To: WAMUG <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups >>>>>>>>>>>> are working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups >>>>>>>>>>>> concluding with correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest >>>>>>>>>>>> account in place as for the moment this is not a major issue for >>>>>>>>>>>> me. Not urgent thanks Ronni once again for your input on this one. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are >>>>>>>>>>>> now connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your >>>>>>>>>>>> administrator name you have always connected with. >>>>>>>>>>>> Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the >>>>>>>>>>>> 2.5GHz? >>>>>>>>>>>> Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. >>>>>>>>>>>> Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more >>>>>>>>>>>> thought overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish >>>>>>>>>>>> tonight. >>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this >>>>>>>>>>>> issue. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting >>>>>>>>>>>> up a Guest network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In >>>>>>>>>>>> all that time I have never used a Guest network nor seen the need >>>>>>>>>>>> to so I am happy to delete it - but don’t know how to. If I did >>>>>>>>>>>> delete the Guest network, would that prevent me auto connecting >>>>>>>>>>>> and hence interrupt the TC backups going on? I’d prefer to delete >>>>>>>>>>>> the Guest network after I’ve resolved the auto connect as Admin. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>>>> Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network >>>>>>>>>>>> allows you to share you connection with guests to your house >>>>>>>>>>>> without endangering your main network with all of your devices. >>>>>>>>>>>> It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead >>>>>>>>>>>> of one. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time >>>>>>>>>>>> Capsule in my house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is >>>>>>>>>>>> just a recent thing as I would have recognised before now over the >>>>>>>>>>>> 8 years odd I’ve had it. I can’t think what may have changed this >>>>>>>>>>>> but wonder how I can actually alter this so my connection is in my >>>>>>>>>>>> own name - as I am known to the network as? I had a bit of a >>>>>>>>>>>> Google around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate this >>>>>>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my >>>>>>>>>>>> kids Macbooks default connection either has their name or >>>>>>>>>>>> Administrator. Whilst this isn’t a security concern to me with >>>>>>>>>>>> them so much but I am puzzled why the network “sees” me as a Guest >>>>>>>>>>>> in my own home - so far as the TC connection goes! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my >>>>>>>>>>>> apparent admin status seems in order. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Any tips from anyone? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Pete >>>> >> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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