Hi, Neil,

Thanks for your reply.  I think the landline is back in business now, but the 2 
iPhones are not. They all use Telstra but the landline is handled by iiNet, and 
our payments go to them, and the iPhones are pre-paid on the Telstra web site. 
So the mystery remains: why don’t the iPhones work, and how can we fix things.

I know that the NBN is supposed to notify homeowners when they need to sign up, 
but our road is in a kind of enclave: homes on land on 2 sides of us are 
already using NBN, but supposedly it won’t get to our road for another year or 
two.  So it occurred to me that possibly someone turned off the old phone lines 
by mistake.  

Anyway, thanks again.

Pat


> On 10 May 2019, at 20:09, Neil Houghton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Pat,
> 
> Just a thought - are the iPhones on post-paid plans with the same service 
> supplier as the landline?
> 
> If they are then it is possibly all the same problem - the supplier (or their 
> automated account software) has shut/paused the account for some reason  - 
> should be easy to check with them.
> 
> If the landline is a different supplier and/or the phones are pre-paid then 
> all the services/accounts are, in effect, separate - so it would be a strange 
> coincidence for them all to fail at the same time?
> 
> I don't think you can blame the NBN they roll out their service well before 
> they switch off the landlines and that would have no relevance to you mobile 
> phone coverage anyway? 
> 
> Just my 2c worth  ;o)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: [email protected]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Pat 
> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
> Date: Friday, 10 May 2019 at 14:49
> To: WAMUG <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Something I didn't buy
> 
>    Thank you, Peter and Philippe. I have alerted the bank about this.
> 
>    But it never rains but it pours, according to an old saying.  And this 
> strange new problem has arisen: Both of our iPhones and our Landline phone 
> are not functioning. They ring on an incoming call, but when we answer, our 
> voices don’t register and a recorded voice says, “connection failed”. And if 
> we try to ring out, we are told that our phone is not connected.
> 
>    This made me think that perhaps the NBN caused us to be cut off, but 
> according to the NBN map on the iiNet website our address is not undergoing 
> any changes, and we can’t expect the NBN for a couple of years.
> 
>    I haven’t wanted to use the ‘Cloud’ for phone calls, so I wondered if 
> Apple was applying some subversive influence, but surely Apple is above that 
> and they wouldn’t do anything to our Landline.
> 
>    We are open to any suggestions of why this is happening. 
> 
>    Hopefully,
>    Pat
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 May 2019, at 07:57, Peter Hinchliffe <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9 May 2019, at 9:42 pm, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I received an email today which may or may not have come from Apple. It 
>>> says, “Your Apple Subscription Receipt” (to Netflix). But, I did not order 
>>> a subscription. I think it is probably a scam, although it looks very 
>>> authentic. One anomaly is that where it says ‘you can cancel a Subscription 
>>> at any time: Cancel/Refund Subscription’  there is no URL.
>>> 
>>> The email did not say ‘No Reply’, so I did reply, but it bounced.
>>> 
>>> What recourse do I have?
>>> 
>> 
>> 1. Always, always, ALWAYS make it your first order of business to check the 
>> sending address of the email. If it has genuinely come from Apple, the 
>> sending address will end in .apple.com. If its some variant of 
>> .apple.xxx.com, or something else that doesn’t evem contain the word 
>> “apple”, you can be sure it didn’t come from anyone at Apple. Likewise, a 
>> genuine email from Netflix will end in .netflix.com, not some variant of 
>> .netflix.xxx.com. You can check the sending address byt rolling over the 
>> address at the very top of the email and clicking on the little disclosure 
>> trinagle that appears (assuming you’re using Mail). 
>> 
>> 2. Never, never, NEVER reply to suspicious emails. It’s just inviting a ton 
>> of trouble. It confirms that your email address is real, inviting a 
>> potential flood of spam from the same source or others.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948
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