Hi Daniel,

   After seeing Stephen Chape's heads-up about Microsoft Office 2019 files
   entering a "reduced functionality mode," becoming read-only, on July 13
   - I realised that I could no longer keep my 2009 27" iMac going until
   Apple released a new 28" or 32" Apple silicon iMac (I kept hoping...) -
   the old i7 iMac still works pretty well after upgrading to an internal
   SSD for OSX & apps, plus 3TB internal drive for data, plus RAM upgrade
   to 20GB (was 24GB until one 4GB chip got flaky) but an upgrade of the
   17 year old machine is long overdue.

   I had been contemplating a Mac mini or Mac Studio when the M5 versions
   came out - however my overriding requirement was to keep MS Office
   going - all accounting and reporting for my SMSF is handled by a large
   Excel workbook - 35 (and rising) linked worksheets, and some 20 years
   of invested work, generate the Annual Report, Annual Tax Return, and
   all audit worksheets - so I decided to bite the bullet on a M4 machine.
   So, late on 9 June, I ordered:

   Mac Studio with M4 Max chip

   Hardware:

       36GB unified memory

       Accessory Kit

       1TB SSD storage

       14-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine

   Down here, in Albany, I’m used to things taking a bit longer so the
   estimated delivery of 20^th to 28^th August was as soon as I expected,
   given your warning about special orders.
   Well, for once, Apple under-promised and over delivered! The computer
   was picked up in Shenzen (China) at 7:35pm on 1 July and landed on my
   doorstep at 10:40am this morning – so less than 6 days after pick-up in
   Shenzen and not even 4 weeks after placing the order!

   One thing I am really looking forward to is having a multiple monitor
   set-up – I am frequently working with several large Excel
   workbook/worksheets open and at present I am limited to my 27” iMac
   screen and a 32” QHD monitor (same res as the iMac screen) but with the
   new studio I will have (as a starting minimum) three 4k monitors (one
   28” and two 32”).

   All 3 monitors have both HDMI and DisplayPort inputs and I am
   envisaging driving one from the Studio HDMI port to the Monitor HDMI
   input via a standard HDMI cable – this will probably be the 28” monitor
   which I have already been using with our MacBook Air, via a USB-C hub
   and HDMI cable.

   So, what I am wondering is the best way to connect the two new 32”
   monitors to the Thunderbolt ports on the Studio? Two options seem to
   be  simplest:
     * USB-C to Display Port cable
     * USB-C to HDMI cable

   I am aware that either option is physically compatible – ie they can be
   plugged into each other – but I am wondering if either option is
   preferable from the signal protocol point of view. I was caught out
   when I first tried to connect my 32” QHD monitor to the iMac (which has
   a mini Display Port video output) I first used a mini Display Port to
   HDMI cable but the iMac would not recognise the native QHD resolution
   of the monitor – the best it would do was FullHD. A bit of Googling
   later (this was pre AI) I found that a mini Display Port to Display
   Port cable was recommended – new cable bought – full QHD resolution
   enabled. I believed that this was because this connection used the
   display port signal end to end – whereas the initial set-up required a
   Display Port to HDMI conversion and my hardware for this (in the cable,
   I presume?) was OK at FullHD but couldn’t handle QHD.

   This is my first experience with the Thunderbolt interface, but
   Wikipedia tells me that it uses the Display Port interface for the
   video signal. Wikipedia tells me a lot about HDMI – most of which went
   over my head – but it included this:
   Adapters and active converters are also available for connecting HDMI
   to other video interfaces, including the older analog formats, as well
   as digital formats such as DisplayPort.

   My first reading of this seems to suggest that I would be better with a
   USB-C to Display Port cable than a USB-C to HDMI cable? However the
   USB-C to HDMI cables seem to be much more common.

   I was also surprised with a quick peruse of Office works (which we have
   in Albany) to see the reviews of this
   [1]https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/comsol-displayport
   -to-usb-c-4k-cable-2m-codpum02 which says that the cable only works one
   way (the wrong way for me) – the computer has to have the Display Port
   and the monitor has to have the USB-C

   Looking at places like Amazon shows a HUGE selection of different
   brands and prices from around $10 to hundreds of dollars! Some saying
   4k and some saying 8k but often the 8k items are much cheaper than
   other 4k items.

   Anyway that is more than enough rambling from me, I guess that my
   questions are:
   What are the pros/cons of using either the HDMI or Display Post input
   on the monitor when driving from the Thunderbolt output on the Studio
   Are there any particular brands to avoid or recommended or will any do
   the job
   Many descriptions refer to cables including chips and being
   one-directional – is this a general thing or just with cheaper cables.

   If anyone has any recommendations/horror stories I’d love to hear.

   I figure with his many corporate clients, Daniel probably has a lot of
   experience with this – any input most welcome :o)

   TIA


   Neil



   -----Original Message-----
   From: WAMUG <[2][email protected]> on behalf of Daniel
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   Date: Thursday, 04 June 2026 at 18:24
   To: WAMUG <[5][email protected]>
   Cc: Daniel Kerr <[6][email protected]>
   Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Delay on login window becoming active ?

       Good luck getting a Mac mini (or Mac Studio at the moment). Most
   options have an “at least” 12 week wait time for special orders. :))
       Also,..waiting for the M5 to go into the Mac mini and Mac Studio
   currently too.

       I had a Mac Studio on order for a client (with 64GB RAM upgrade).
   Ordered it mid-March. It was delivered today.
       The run on component parts from AI server farms has made delays in
   a lot of products (and let’s not get started on what it’s done to SSD
   pricing.!!! I nearly fell off my chair the other day when I had to
   price one up for a client!!

       But yes,..that Mac mini and external screens are good options. I’ve
   done a lot of them for my clients. (Replaced a whole business from
   2012/2013 iMac 27” models to all Mac minis with 3rd party various
   screens). Plenty of range and choice available for different budgets
   (and depending on “features” wanted. :)
       They’re great little machines’ the little Mac mini.

       Kind regards
       Daniel

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