Hello Neil.

   I am fairly sure that the HDMI cables operate in both directions.
   This was designed so TV accessories can send and receive date, for
   example.
   Regards,
   Stephen Chape
   Mac by choice
   Windows because my employer knew no better

   On 7 Jul 2026, at 8:27 pm, neil--- via WAMUG <[email protected]>
   wrote:

     Hi Daniel,
     After seeing Stephen Chape's heads-up about Microsoft Office 2019
   files
     entering a "reduced functionality mode," becoming read-only, on July
   13
     - I realised that I could no longer keep my 2009 27" iMac going until
     Apple released a new 28" or 32" Apple silicon iMac (I kept hoping...)
   -
     the old i7 iMac still works pretty well after upgrading to an
   internal
     SSD for OSX & apps, plus 3TB internal drive for data, plus RAM
   upgrade
     to 20GB (was 24GB until one 4GB chip got flaky) but an upgrade of the
     17 year old machine is long overdue.
     I had been contemplating a Mac mini or Mac Studio when the M5
   versions
     came out - however my overriding requirement was to keep MS Office
     going - all accounting and reporting for my SMSF is handled by a
   large
     Excel workbook - 35 (and rising) linked worksheets, and some 20 years
     of invested work, generate the Annual Report, Annual Tax Return, and
     all audit worksheets - so I decided to bite the bullet on a M4
   machine.
     So, late on 9 June, I ordered:
     Mac Studio with M4 Max chip
     Hardware:
         36GB unified memory
         Accessory Kit
         1TB SSD storage
         14-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
     Down here, in Albany, I’m used to things taking a bit longer so the
     estimated delivery of 20^th to 28^th August was as soon as I
   expected,
     given your warning about special orders.
     Well, for once, Apple under-promised and over delivered! The computer
     was picked up in Shenzen (China) at 7:35pm on 1 July and landed on my
     doorstep at 10:40am this morning – so less than 6 days after pick-up
   in
     Shenzen and not even 4 weeks after placing the order!
     One thing I am really looking forward to is having a multiple monitor
     set-up – I am frequently working with several large Excel
     workbook/worksheets open and at present I am limited to my 27” iMac
     screen and a 32” QHD monitor (same res as the iMac screen) but with
   the
     new studio I will have (as a starting minimum) three 4k monitors (one
     28” and two 32”).
     All 3 monitors have both HDMI and DisplayPort inputs and I am
     envisaging driving one from the Studio HDMI port to the Monitor HDMI
     input via a standard HDMI cable – this will probably be the 28”
   monitor
     which I have already been using with our MacBook Air, via a USB-C hub
     and HDMI cable.
     So, what I am wondering is the best way to connect the two new 32”
     monitors to the Thunderbolt ports on the Studio? Two options seem to
     be  simplest:
       * USB-C to Display Port cable
       * USB-C to HDMI cable
     I am aware that either option is physically compatible – ie they can
   be
     plugged into each other – but I am wondering if either option is
     preferable from the signal protocol point of view. I was caught out
     when I first tried to connect my 32” QHD monitor to the iMac (which
   has
     a mini Display Port video output) I first used a mini Display Port to
     HDMI cable but the iMac would not recognise the native QHD resolution
     of the monitor – the best it would do was FullHD. A bit of Googling
     later (this was pre AI) I found that a mini Display Port to Display
     Port cable was recommended – new cable bought – full QHD resolution
     enabled. I believed that this was because this connection used the
     display port signal end to end – whereas the initial set-up required
   a
     Display Port to HDMI conversion and my hardware for this (in the
   cable,
     I presume?) was OK at FullHD but couldn’t handle QHD.
     This is my first experience with the Thunderbolt interface, but
     Wikipedia tells me that it uses the Display Port interface for the
     video signal. Wikipedia tells me a lot about HDMI – most of which
   went
     over my head – but it included this:
     Adapters and active converters are also available for connecting HDMI
     to other video interfaces, including the older analog formats, as
   well
     as digital formats such as DisplayPort.
     My first reading of this seems to suggest that I would be better with
   a
     USB-C to Display Port cable than a USB-C to HDMI cable? However the
     USB-C to HDMI cables seem to be much more common.
     I was also surprised with a quick peruse of Office works (which we
   have
     in Albany) to see the reviews of this
     [1]https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/comsol-displaypo
   rt
     -to-usb-c-4k-cable-2m-codpum02 which says that the cable only works
   one
     way (the wrong way for me) – the computer has to have the Display
   Port
     and the monitor has to have the USB-C
     Looking at places like Amazon shows a HUGE selection of different
     brands and prices from around $10 to hundreds of dollars! Some saying
     4k and some saying 8k but often the 8k items are much cheaper than
     other 4k items.
     Anyway that is more than enough rambling from me, I guess that my
     questions are:
     What are the pros/cons of using either the HDMI or Display Post input
     on the monitor when driving from the Thunderbolt output on the Studio
     Are there any particular brands to avoid or recommended or will any
   do
     the job
     Many descriptions refer to cables including chips and being
     one-directional – is this a general thing or just with cheaper
   cables.
     If anyone has any recommendations/horror stories I’d love to hear.
     I figure with his many corporate clients, Daniel probably has a lot
   of
     experience with this – any input most welcome :o)
     TIA
     Neil
     -----Original Message-----
     From: WAMUG <[2][email protected]> on behalf of Daniel
     Kerr via WAMUG <[3][email protected]>
     Reply to: WAMUG <[4][email protected]>
     Date: Thursday, 04 June 2026 at 18:24
     To: WAMUG <[5][email protected]>
     Cc: Daniel Kerr <[6][email protected]>
     Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Delay on login window becoming active ?
         Good luck getting a Mac mini (or Mac Studio at the moment). Most
     options have an “at least” 12 week wait time for special orders. :))
         Also,..waiting for the M5 to go into the Mac mini and Mac Studio
     currently too.
         I had a Mac Studio on order for a client (with 64GB RAM upgrade).
     Ordered it mid-March. It was delivered today.
         The run on component parts from AI server farms has made delays
   in
     a lot of products (and let’s not get started on what it’s done to SSD
     pricing.!!! I nearly fell off my chair the other day when I had to
     price one up for a client!!
         But yes,..that Mac mini and external screens are good options.
   I’ve
     done a lot of them for my clients. (Replaced a whole business from
     2012/2013 iMac 27” models to all Mac minis with 3rd party various
     screens). Plenty of range and choice available for different budgets
     (and depending on “features” wanted. :)
         They’re great little machines’ the little Mac mini.
         Kind regards
         Daniel
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   References
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   https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/comsol-displayport-to
   -usb-c-4k-cable-2m-codpum02
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