More info on monitors - not sure how much this may/may not affect the
   choice of using the HDMI or Display Port inputs?

   All three monitors show the following input specs:
   HDMI Input
   Interface:  HDMI 2.0
   Input Signals:  VESA TMDS (Panel Link™)/HDMI

   Display Port Input
   Interface:  Display Port 1.4
   Input Signals:  VESA TMDS (Panel Link™)/HDMI

   Whereas the Mac Studio has the following outputs:

   HDMI 2.1
   Thunderbolt 5 – Display Port 2.1 over USB-C

   I’m pretty OK technically – but this is all a bit above my pay grade!

   Or am I making too much of this would a K-mart USB Type C to HDMI Cable
   just work as well as anything?!

   What does anyone else use for a multiple 4k monitor set-up?

   TIA

   Neil


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   Date: Tuesday, 07 July 2026 at 20:28
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   Subject: [WAMUG] Attaching 4k monitors to Thunderbolt ports. Was Re:
   Delay on login window becoming active ?

          Hi Daniel,

          After seeing Stephen Chape's heads-up about Microsoft Office
   2019 files
          entering a "reduced functionality mode," becoming read-only, on
   July 13
          - I realised that I could no longer keep my 2009 27" iMac going
   until
          Apple released a new 28" or 32" Apple silicon iMac (I kept
   hoping...) -
          the old i7 iMac still works pretty well after upgrading to an
   internal
          SSD for OSX & apps, plus 3TB internal drive for data, plus RAM
   upgrade
          to 20GB (was 24GB until one 4GB chip got flaky) but an upgrade
   of the
          17 year old machine is long overdue.

          I had been contemplating a Mac mini or Mac Studio when the M5
   versions
          came out - however my overriding requirement was to keep MS
   Office
          going - all accounting and reporting for my SMSF is handled by a
   large
          Excel workbook - 35 (and rising) linked worksheets, and some 20
   years
          of invested work, generate the Annual Report, Annual Tax Return,
   and
          all audit worksheets - so I decided to bite the bullet on a M4
   machine.
          So, late on 9 June, I ordered:

          Mac Studio with M4 Max chip

          Hardware:

              36GB unified memory

              Accessory Kit

              1TB SSD storage

              14-core CPU, 32-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine

          Down here, in Albany, I’m used to things taking a bit longer so
   the
          estimated delivery of 20^th to 28^th August was as soon as I
   expected,
          given your warning about special orders.
          Well, for once, Apple under-promised and over delivered! The
   computer
          was picked up in Shenzen (China) at 7:35pm on 1 July and landed
   on my
          doorstep at 10:40am this morning – so less than 6 days after
   pick-up in
          Shenzen and not even 4 weeks after placing the order!

          One thing I am really looking forward to is having a multiple
   monitor
          set-up – I am frequently working with several large Excel
          workbook/worksheets open and at present I am limited to my 27”
   iMac
          screen and a 32” QHD monitor (same res as the iMac screen) but
   with the
          new studio I will have (as a starting minimum) three 4k monitors
   (one
          28” and two 32”).

          All 3 monitors have both HDMI and DisplayPort inputs and I am
          envisaging driving one from the Studio HDMI port to the Monitor
   HDMI
          input via a standard HDMI cable – this will probably be the 28”
   monitor
          which I have already been using with our MacBook Air, via a
   USB-C hub
          and HDMI cable.

          So, what I am wondering is the best way to connect the two new
   32”
          monitors to the Thunderbolt ports on the Studio? Two options
   seem to
          be  simplest:
            * USB-C to Display Port cable
            * USB-C to HDMI cable

          I am aware that either option is physically compatible – ie they
   can be
          plugged into each other – but I am wondering if either option is
          preferable from the signal protocol point of view. I was caught
   out
          when I first tried to connect my 32” QHD monitor to the iMac
   (which has
          a mini Display Port video output) I first used a mini Display
   Port to
          HDMI cable but the iMac would not recognise the native QHD
   resolution
          of the monitor – the best it would do was FullHD. A bit of
   Googling
          later (this was pre AI) I found that a mini Display Port to
   Display
          Port cable was recommended – new cable bought – full QHD
   resolution
          enabled. I believed that this was because this connection used
   the
          display port signal end to end – whereas the initial set-up
   required a
          Display Port to HDMI conversion and my hardware for this (in the
   cable,
          I presume?) was OK at FullHD but couldn’t handle QHD.

          This is my first experience with the Thunderbolt interface, but
          Wikipedia tells me that it uses the Display Port interface for
   the
          video signal. Wikipedia tells me a lot about HDMI – most of
   which went
          over my head – but it included this:
          Adapters and active converters are also available for connecting
   HDMI
          to other video interfaces, including the older analog formats,
   as well
          as digital formats such as DisplayPort.

          My first reading of this seems to suggest that I would be better
   with a
          USB-C to Display Port cable than a USB-C to HDMI cable? However
   the
          USB-C to HDMI cables seem to be much more common.

          I was also surprised with a quick peruse of Office works (which
   we have
          in Albany) to see the reviews of this

   [1][6]https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/comsol-displayp
   ort
          -to-usb-c-4k-cable-2m-codpum02 which says that the cable only
   works one
          way (the wrong way for me) – the computer has to have the
   Display Port
          and the monitor has to have the USB-C

          Looking at places like Amazon shows a HUGE selection of
   different
          brands and prices from around $10 to hundreds of dollars! Some
   saying
          4k and some saying 8k but often the 8k items are much cheaper
   than
          other 4k items.

          Anyway that is more than enough rambling from me, I guess that
   my
          questions are:
          What are the pros/cons of using either the HDMI or Display Post
   input
          on the monitor when driving from the Thunderbolt output on the
   Studio
          Are there any particular brands to avoid or recommended or will
   any do
          the job
          Many descriptions refer to cables including chips and being
          one-directional – is this a general thing or just with cheaper
   cables.

          If anyone has any recommendations/horror stories I’d love to
   hear.

          I figure with his many corporate clients, Daniel probably has a
   lot of
          experience with this – any input most welcome :o)

          TIA


          Neil



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          Kerr via WAMUG <[3][8][email protected]>
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          Date: Thursday, 04 June 2026 at 18:24
          To: WAMUG <[5][10][email protected]>
          Cc: Daniel Kerr <[6][11][email protected]>
          Subject: Re: [WAMUG] Delay on login window becoming active ?

              Good luck getting a Mac mini (or Mac Studio at the moment).
   Most
          options have an “at least” 12 week wait time for special orders.
   :))
              Also,..waiting for the M5 to go into the Mac mini and Mac
   Studio
          currently too.

              I had a Mac Studio on order for a client (with 64GB RAM
   upgrade).
          Ordered it mid-March. It was delivered today.
              The run on component parts from AI server farms has made
   delays in
          a lot of products (and let’s not get started on what it’s done
   to SSD
          pricing.!!! I nearly fell off my chair the other day when I had
   to
          price one up for a client!!

              But yes,..that Mac mini and external screens are good
   options. I’ve
          done a lot of them for my clients. (Replaced a whole business
   from
          2012/2013 iMac 27” models to all Mac minis with 3rd party
   various
          screens). Plenty of range and choice available for different
   budgets
          (and depending on “features” wanted. :)
              They’re great little machines’ the little Mac mini.

              Kind regards
              Daniel

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