While we are on names, how about SpectiR? :) If no one else wants it, I'll take it.
Chandu On Apr 7, 3:38 pm, Jarmo Pertman <[email protected]> wrote: > I understand what you're getting at. > > Of course i don't want to be impolite nor rude. I'm wondering, what > does Jari himself think about this topic? Is he planning > to release it as a gem at all? If he does and wants to do it with the > same name, then i've given it some thought and have an idea what to > rename my gem, but > i still have some organizational questions. How can i rename my gem on > rubygems? Is it even possible? Or should i just 'yank' all the > versions of my gem? Does it free > up the name again? And i will just have to release my gem again, but > with new name? What guarantees that Jari can use this name at all in > the future? Will he push some dummy gem as a placeholder for that? > > So, as you can see, i have a lot of questions, lol. > > Cheers, > Jarmo > > On Apr 7, 6:44 pm, Ethan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I don't think anybody wants to force (or can force) you to use a different > > name, but it is being pointed out that there exists a piece of work which is > > already using that name (even if slightly different case). I don't think > > anybody is implying that you intentionally took an already-in-use name, but > > the basic fact is that it is in use. Using that name may create confusion > > amongst people talking about either piece of work, and may conflict if the > > same name is used in various contexts, including a gem name. It seems to me > > the polite thing would be to choose a different name and cede the name to > > the existing, older piece of work. Asking that the existing watirspec change > > its name in the future to avoid conflict with yours does not seem > > reasonable. But, ultimately it is your own decision to make I think. > > > On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 11:23, Jarmo Pertman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Actually i didn't know about WatirCraft either. I know that i have > > > heard about it, but i thought that it is doing something else... It is > > > indeed somehow similar to my gem and i have also (maybe) a plan to add > > > Cucumber support... i mean, there's not much to add as a support > > > except just an additional dependency and require statement :P Anyway, > > > ideas seem to be somehow similar indeed. > > > > But about the name. Since i didn't know anything (i swear!) about the > > > existence of WatirSpec name and didn't find anything on rubygems.org, > > > then that's why i decided to pick a name called WatiRspec (notice that > > > there's also difference in case). Since i didn't steal the name or > > > didn't do anything else bad intentionally, then i feel that it would > > > not be fair against me if you or someone else would force me to change > > > the name because of these reasons. I'm not sure that name conflict can > > > happen on rubygems... So, if Jari or someone else decides to release a > > > gem with already existing name, then i guess that they should be the > > > ones to change their gem's name. I don't see any other solutions here > > > at the moment unfortunately. > > > > No hard feelings, i hope. > > > > Best regards, > > > Jarmo > > > > On Apr 6, 9:47 pm, Charley Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A simple gem might make sense or you can help work on the existing gems, > > > I > > > > haven't really thought about it too much but the WatirCraft gem does > > > > simplify things and add cucumber support. My thought in best to avoid, > > > > is > > > > that watirspec isn't currently gemified, but easily could be. So while > > > > there's not a name clash right now, the possibility exists that there > > > > may > > > be > > > > in the future. It makes sense to make Jari's current work into a gem. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > -c > > > > > On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Jarmo Pertman <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Well, as i understood, then Taza just offers extra functionality and > > > > > in deep within Watir and RSpec is used for it. But as i already > > > > > mentioned, then WatiRspec is not doing much extra except combining > > > > > both of these tools. And this is enough for my work. > > > > > > What did you mean about this "probably best to avoid that name for > > > > > now" exactly? > > > > > > Jarmo > > > > > > On Apr 6, 3:23 am, Charley Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Hey Jarmo, > > > > > > > No worries. Watirspec isn't a gem yet, but may be at some point, > > > > > > probably best to avoid that name for now. Taza's more complex to > > > > > > some > > > > > > degree, but the basics are fairly simple. Interested to hear more > > > about > > > > > your > > > > > > point of view and how you see it, or anyone else for that matter. > > > > > > Let > > > me > > > > > > know. :) > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Charley Baker > > > > > > Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.com > > > > > > QA Architect, Gap Inc Direct > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Jarmo Pertman <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > You are correct, i didn't know anything about these projects. But > > > as > > > > > > > far as i looked on Taza's documentation right now, then i can say > > > that > > > > > > > it is a completely different library. It might have a similar idea > > > at > > > > > > > some degree, but Taza seems to be just a lot more complex with all > > > > > > > those extra features, which are not needed for me. I don't plan to > > > > > > > make WatiRspec like that. WatiRspec's main idea is that it takes > > > RSpec > > > > > > > and Watir and just makes it easier to use both of these tools > > > together > > > > > > > by providing some helper methods and that's mainly it. > > > > > > > > I haven't been very original in thinking of names, thus i named it > > > > > > > like Watir + RSpec = WatiRspec > > > > > > > > Sorry, if i caused any troubles with that. > > > > > > > > Jarmo > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 10:27 pm, Charley Baker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > How is this different from Taza? > > > > >http://github.com/charley/tazawhichdoes > > > > > > > > exactly the same sort of thing. watirspec is the name of Jari's > > > rspec > > > > > > > tests > > > > > > > > for celerity and watir, so despite the fact that it's not a gem > > > yet, > > > > > I'd > > > > > > > > cede that name to him. Let me know if I'm offbase, maybe you > > > didn't > > > > > know > > > > > > > > about these projects. :) I'd be happy to have you involved in > > > Taza. > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > Charley Baker > > > > > > > > Lead Developer, Watir,http://watir.com > > > > > > > > QA Architect, Gap Inc Direct > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Jarmo <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to let you know that I've released my first gem > > > > > called > > > > > > > > > WatiRspec. It does combine Watir and RSpec for you so you > > > > > > > > > could > > > > > start > > > > > > > > > testing easily and write less code. I created it because i > > > noticed > > > > > > > > > that i'm reinventing these things all the time if new > > > > > client/project > > > > > > > > > is started. Now it's much easier. Just enter few commands and > > > i'm > > > > > > > > > ready to start. I'm going to use it in my everyday work. It is > > > > > going > > > > > > > > > to be part of my diploma thesis also. > > > > > > > > > > It is very fresh library, so it's possible that something > > > doesn't > > > > > work > > > > > > > > > as it should - although i have written tests for my code :) > > > > > > > > > > What do you think? Do you see any shortages? Might it be > > > > > > > > > useful > > > for > > > > > you > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > all? > > > > > > > > > > You can read more about it athttp://github.com/jarmo/WatiRspec > > > > > > > > > > You can read about some of the principles (haven't had the > > > > > > > > > time > > > to > > > > > > > > > update it yet with newest ideas) from my blog too: > > > > > > > > >http://www.itreallymatters.net > > > > > > > > > > Jarmo Pertman > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Before posting, please readhttp://watir.com/support. 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