my question is... if you take a manual test case and automate it... do you
still need to run it manually?

if so then why automate it :)

And if it is automated why does it need to be with the manual test cases?
how will you know what is automated or not? probably a flag somewhere its
always a flag

also, By good description of what it is doing I hope you mean something in
more of a declarative scenario.




On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Dan <[email protected]> wrote:

> So we're standing up ALM now actually, which has the rest API, but I'm not
> sure I want to go down that road.  One thing that's really drawing me to
> cucumber is that along with reporting the results of the test you get a
> good description of what it's doing.  It is possible to pull the
> information from QC via the api and commit other sorts of information back
> to QC.  If I do that though I lose the coupling between gerkins and
> cucumber and the rest of the framework it seems.
>
> Dan
>
>
> On Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:15:29 PM UTC-4, johnssn wrote:
>
>> At my previous company we were using TestLink and Test::Unit. I modified
>> Test::Unit to update tests as they were executed (individual classes or
>> methods just needed to include the test id as part of the class or method
>> name).  The test would make a call to TestLink as each test result was
>> obtained.
>>
>> A better way of doing it might be to let the test run to completion and
>> then have a post-processing step that parses the results using regular
>> expressions and then does the update. The advantage to this is if you get a
>> really bad run you don't care about you can just reprocess the results from
>> the previous run. If you care about that.
>>
>> It does look like QC has an API that allows updates. You just need to
>> make sure whatever ID QC is using gets into the results somehow, then use
>> that.
>>
>> It looks like the latest version has a rest api (yay!). Here's the link
>> to that API doc (down at the bottom of the thread)
>>
>> http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/**Quality-Center-Support-and-**
>> News/ALM-11-0-REST-API-**reference-guide/td-p/4747218#.**UjtMubyraIs<http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/Quality-Center-Support-and-News/ALM-11-0-REST-API-reference-guide/td-p/4747218#.UjtMubyraIs>
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>>
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Dan <[email protected]>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:42 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [wtr-general] Cucumber and Quality Center
>>
>> I should clarify.  QC won't be going away.  It's going to remain the
>> repository for manual test cases from which we'll create automation.  We
>> use watir-webdriver as opposed to QTP in the cases where our tests are
>> browser based.  My concern is that if we have the test cases in QC and then
>> we create automated watir test cases using cucumber, that we now
>> essentially have two test cases that need to be maintained.  I'm trying to
>> think of a more intelligent way for them to work together.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:39:02 PM UTC-4, Oscar.Rieken wrote:
>>
>> If you are going to migrate over to cucumber from QTP. I have done that
>> they way we did it was located the important behaviors that were being
>> tested in QTP rewrite them in cucumber/watir and then delete them from QTP.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Dan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure that this is the correct forum for this, but I'm sure that
>> someone here must have run into a similar situation.  We pretty heavily use
>> QC/ALM here along with a mixture of QTP and watir-webdriver.  Currently
>> we're using a custom framework, but I'd like to start moving to something
>> like cucumber, since there's a lot of advantages there.  The problem is
>> using cucumber seems like a duplication of what we're doing in Quality
>> Center.  Any thoughts on this would be greatly appreciated.
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