Something we've done in Apache Wookie is to have one core server product but a much more open "connector framework" which we encouraged the community to port to C#, Python, Ruby etc.
So it may be a strategy to focus on the Wave Protocol server as a single codebase, but identify other areas of the spec where multiple implementations would be complementary. We've already seen how the Wave Gadgets API can be used independently, and I'm sure there are client connector APIs for Wave that may benefit from having multiple implementations using different base technologies/languages. That could be a good way of encouraging more developers to contribute. On 12 Dec 2010, at 19:55, Tad Glines wrote: > I know that apache supports multiple projects under a common name (e.g. > db.apache.org) so I think it's conceivable that other projects besides WiaB > could reside under wave.apache.org. > > Once "Apache Wave" makes it out of incubation, we should look at sponsoring > other wave projects. > > If what Jasus wants to contribute is a C# client library, then I think we > might want to considere it for inclusion with WiaB. If however, Jesus wants > to contribute a partial or complete server implementation, then it should > probably go in a separate project. > > I agree with Torben that it would probably be best if Jesus start by > creating a github or google code project. > > -Tad > > On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Torben Weis <torben.w...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jesus, >> >> my understanding of the move to Apache was that this is mainly a WiaB >> thing. >> Thus, Apache Wave (formerly WiaB) is one implementation of the Wave >> standards. >> >> We encourage other implementations of Wave technology (for example my >> lightwave project >> is written in Go). However, my understanding is that these implementations >> will not >> sail under the Apache Wave banner. >> >> On the long run we even plan to spin off the specs to make the point that >> the specs are >> independent and Apache Wave is "just" one implementation of these specs >> (albeit the >> most complete and standards compliant one). >> >> To make wave a success we need multiple implementations, Apache Wave being >> one of them. >> If you want to start a C# wave server (which sounds like a great idea to >> me), put the code up on >> code.google.com or github and inform this list. Once we have moved our web >> pages we need to keep track of other wave implementations and link to them >> from the Apache Wave web sites. >> >> Greetings >> Torben >> >> 2010/12/12 Jesus Salas <jesus.sa...@gmail.com> >> >>> Hi Soren, >>> >>> I was not thinking to contribute on main Java trunk, (as I didn't have >>> enough Java Knowledge), but to begin contribute to a c#.Net >> implementation >>> for wave. >>> >>> I can and I really want to 'open source' pieces of wave-vs.net, (Several >>> KLOC), and provide this to make wave technology as broadest as possible. >>> >>> Even if main implementation work continues to be Java technology I think >> a >>> potential c# implementation as a "Port" or "Contrib", (whatever you think >>> is >>> the best), is possible and desirable to make Wave stronger. >>> >>> As I never have work on an Apache or Open Source Project I'm blind on how >>> it >>> is structured or how it works, so you will need to guide me most of the >>> time >>> on how to do things until I learn a bit... >>> >>> I have to ask if you think is a good idea to open this .Net branch for >> Wave >>> Technology sponsored inside the Apache Incubator Project. >>> >>> jesus >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Soren Lassen <so...@google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jesus, >>>> >>>> You don't need an account to contribute. You can check out the the >>>> source code (see >>>> http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/source/checkout, >>>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/wave-in-a-box/setting-up) and then when >>>> you have added your code or made the code changes you want to >>>> contribute, send it for code review: >>>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/code/submitting-code >>>> >>>> Once someone has reviewed your code and you've made the changes that >>>> you and the reviewer(s) agree on, a committer will apply your code to >>>> the repository for you. You will need to sign a contributor agreement >>>> first: >>>> http://www.waveprotocol.org/code/committers >>>> >>>> At least that's how it works right now. There will be changes to the >>>> way we work with the code repository and code reviews as we switch to >>>> Apache's tools and processes in the near future. >>>> >>>> Soren >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:17 AM, Andrus Adamchik >>>> <and...@objectstyle.org> wrote: >>>>> To become a committer you need to start contributing to the project. >>> E.g. >>>> read these messages earlier in this thread: >>>>> >>>>> http://bit.ly/eeEfjn >>>>> >>>>> Andrus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Dec 12, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Jesus Salas wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I mean ... for a commiter account... >>>>>> >>>>>> jesus >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Jesus Salas < >> jesus.sa...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry me, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How to submit or a Committer account? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thank you >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Andrus Adamchik < >>>>>>> and...@objectstyle.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, I will handle it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was my intent to attempt to gather information on as many >>> committer >>>>>>>> accounts as we can before sending infra request, but yes I fully >>>> expected >>>>>>>> that out of this long list not everybody will be able to reply >>>> immediately. >>>>>>>> So my plan now is to wait a couple more days, then check with >>>> secret...@about the CLA's (none of the last week CLA's are recorded >>> yet), >>>> and then >>>>>>>> send a request to infra based on the information collected so far. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Andrus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 11, 2010, at 10:10 PM, Upayavira wrote: >>>>>>>>> I agree, we should get some done soon. Are there any more we can >>> get >>>>>>>>> done quickly? If Andrus isn't able to send in an account request >>> over >>>>>>>>> the next few days, I'll happily do it. Andrus? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Upayavira >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 13:55 -0800, "Michael MacFadden" >>>>>>>>> <michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> What is the timeline for getting the accounts created. Again no >>>> rush, >>>>>>>>>> just curious. Appreciate your mentorship / help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Michael >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 8, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Soren Lassen wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a) done >>>>>>>>>>> b) soren or sorenlassen >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Andrus Adamchik < >>>>>>>> and...@objectstyle.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2010, at 8:30 AM, Michael MacFadden wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Committer Accounts -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I assume for those on the initial committer list who don't >>>> already >>>>>>>> have them, we will need to get accounts. Who coordinates that? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will send the request to create committer accounts. We need >> to >>>> do >>>>>>>> some preparation before that though. So below is a list of >>> committers >>>> from >>>>>>>> the proposal, excluding those who already have an account @apache. >> I >>>> suggest >>>>>>>> the following procedure: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (a) everybody on the list please print, sign and submit a >>>> Contributor >>>>>>>> License Agreement [2], except for those who already did; >>>>>>>>>>>> (b) reply to this message (or to me privately to prevent list >>>> noise) >>>>>>>> with 2 versions of a UNIX account name that you would like (this >>> will >>>> also >>>>>>>> be your email at apache dot org). Use [1] to check whether any >> given >>>> name is >>>>>>>> taken. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Once we have all CLA's on file, I'll submit a single request >> to >>>> infra >>>>>>>> to create accounts. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Alex North >>>>>>>>>>>> Anthony Watkins (there's a CLA for 'Anthony LaMarr Watkins' on >>>> file) >>>>>>>>>>>> Christian Ohler >>>>>>>>>>>> Dan Danilatos >>>>>>>>>>>> David Hearnden >>>>>>>>>>>> David Wang >>>>>>>>>>>> James Purser >>>>>>>>>>>> Joseph Gentle >>>>>>>>>>>> Lennard de Rijk >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael MacFadden (there's a CLA on file) >>>>>>>>>>>> Soren Lassen >>>>>>>>>>>> Tad Glines (there's a CLA on file) >>>>>>>>>>>> Torben Weis >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/committer-index.html >>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://apache.org/licenses/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Andrus >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> --------------------------- >> Prof. Torben Weis >> Universitaet Duisburg-Essen >> torben.w...@gmail.com >>
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