in that case, could there be a debug server and an official server?
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Bruno Gonzalez <sten...@gmail.com> wrote: > Waveinabox.net is being run in debug mode, probably because yuri was > testing new stuff, debugging some problem, working on wiab code. This has > also happened several times in the past, though historically I think it's > been stable more often than it's been unstable. > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Fleeky Flanco <fle...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Christian , i just tried to make a new account on waveinabox.net, that > > worked fine but upon trying to make a new wave it keeps crashing over and > > over. so atm waveinabox.net is unusable for me, so actually im really > glad > > you made the suggestion to use it because it seems like there are some > bugs > > to work out of it. > > > > curiously the server i run crashes but not nearly as badly as > > waveinabox.net. > > > > > > For me i dont care which wave server this runs on (although i do want it > to > > be a pure implementation rather than kune or rizzoma) using the tool we > are > > all interested to actually communicate is what interests me. > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > If there were enough impetus, I'd be able to get a test mailing list > set > > > up, it isn't hard. It would be good to not pollute this list with lots > > > of test emails early on. > > > > > > Upayavira > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013, at 02:20 PM, Alfredo Abambres wrote: > > > > Thanks Christian, Bruno and Yuri for your feedback. > > > > > > > > It seems that all other basic conditions are set (or possible) to > make > > a > > > > pretty good test case. > > > > > > > > Now, if someone could find the time, energy and motivation to make > this > > > > happen some of us are eager to help. > > > > > > > > Btw, found other links from previous "bridge" implementations: > > > > > > > > http://emaily.dlux.hu/ > > > > https://code.google.com/p/emaily/ > > > > > > > > > > > > http://alfredo.abambres.com > > > > > > > > *"Moving, always moving, and living inside movement". Rainer Maria > > Rilke* > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Yuri Z <vega...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Robots API works fine with about ~90% functionality implemented > > > compared to > > > > > Google Wave Robot API. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Bruno Gonzalez <sten...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Christian Grobmeier < > > > > > grobme...@gmail.com > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Alfredo Abambres > > > > > > > > I know that is easier said than done. But if we have the > chance > > > to > > > > > find > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > if this is possible, we should grab it, don't you think? > Would > > > you > > > > > help > > > > > > > us > > > > > > > > find out if this is possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats surely possible. Basically you can allow specific senders > > to > > > > > > > post to the mailinglist. > > > > > > > We do something like that with Jira already. My guess is, one > > would > > > > > > > just need to maintain > > > > > > > some kind of message ids to keep a message thread intact. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It looks like a good way to implement this would be a wave robot, > > > but I'm > > > > > > not sure what's the status of robots at the moment in WiaB. > > > > > > For starters, we could hardcode everything for our specific use > > case, > > > > > which > > > > > > is *this* mailing list, one specific robot instance, and one > > specific > > > > > email > > > > > > thread / wave thread. > > > > > > > > > > > > The usage outline would be: > > > > > > - Create a wave in a wiab provider. > > > > > > - Add apache-wave-to-w...@wiab.provider.com to the wave. > > > > > > - Add apache-wave-to-w...@gmail.com to this mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > For starters, the bot will simply listen for all new blips, and > > send > > > an > > > > > > email for each of them, via gmail SMTP server, to > > > > > > apache-...@incubator.apache.org (or any other mailing list > really, > > > this > > > > > is > > > > > > just for development testing), with a hardcoded thread subject > "bot > > > > > test". > > > > > > That way we can test that whatever happens in wave, can reach a > > > mailing > > > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then we have to do the reverse: have a daemon (or something...) > > > listening > > > > > > to the gmail POP/IMAP server, and for each email it receives, > > somehow > > > > > tell > > > > > > the bot to create append a new blip to the wave. > > > > > > > > > > > > Once that's working, we can worry about correct placement of > blips, > > > and > > > > > > correct email headers (so that the conversation tree structure > > isn't > > > > > lost). > > > > > > Then we can figure out a way to set up the bot, so that we can > use > > > > > multiple > > > > > > waves and multiple email threads (each with their own email > subject > > > and > > > > > > wave ID). > > > > > > Continue generalizing until we can use it for apache-wave > > > discussions, or > > > > > > until anyone can use it in any arbitrary mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now the question is... words are nice, but the question as usual > > is, > > > > > who's > > > > > > willing and has enough time to code it? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > A while ago I was working on an RSS reader for wave. The concept > is > > > very > > > > > > similar to what I just explained, only difference is that RSS is > > > > > > unidirectional, while a mailing list is bidirectional. However > the > > > code > > > > > is > > > > > > simple enough and functional (I think I even got to the point > where > > > the > > > > > RSS > > > > > > url was configurable by user from the wave itself), so maybe it > can > > > be > > > > > > taken as a starting point for the mailinglist-gateway: > > > > > > https://github.com/stenyak/bagareader > > > > > > Feel free to fork or do whatever, as long as you respect the > Affero > > > GPL > > > > > v3 > > > > > > license. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Saludos, > > > > > > Bruno González > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Jabber: stenyak AT gmail.com > > > > > > http://www.stenyak.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Saludos, > Bruno González > > _______________________________________________ > Jabber: stenyak AT gmail.com > http://www.stenyak.com >
