Hmm, strange, I didn't receive the vote results...

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:41 PM, John Blossom - Shore Communications Inc. <
jblos...@shore.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Ali, I look forward to going through the whitepapers materials, not
> as a gatekeeper but for my own interest and feedback.
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > I have put them in a whitepapers folder:
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave/whitepapers/
> >
> > On 3 June 2013 22:15, Angus Turner <angusisf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On further inspection they contain all the stuff to build them as well,
> > it
> > > really looks like they should be in a different repo. Or at least not
> > > included in a release. Not sure what we should do here...
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Angus Turner
> > > angusisf...@gmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Angus Turner <angusisf...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hey Ali,
> > >> Maybe the easiest thing with the whitepaper and spec directories is to
> > >> move them onto the wiki. seems a bit weird to have documentation like
> > that
> > >> included within a release...
> > >>
> > >> Once I've got them locally I'll submit a review request with those
> > folders
> > >> deleted...
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Angus Turner
> > >> angusisf...@gmail.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Alain Levesque <
> > albon...@wavewatchers.org>wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> +1 since 2010 and it's never, never and did I mention never to late.
> > >>> Bravo!
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Ali Lown <a...@lown.me.uk> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Looking back over this, in preparation of doing some more work on
> > this.
> > >>> > Comments/questions inlined:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - Unusual CHANGES file: I usually see people adding issue numbers
> > our
> > >>> of
> > >>> > > Jira
> > >>> >
> > >>> > The Wave Jira is fairly incomplete wrt. actual changes that have
> > >>> > occurred. (I would estimate about half of the changes have Jira
> > >>> > tickets, all recent ones have review board numbers, but early
> commits
> > >>> > have neither).
> > >>> >
> > >>> > As such, I saw it mentioned in the Common's guide that the use of
> an
> > >>> > 'svn log' instead was not strange.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > What do you suggest doing with this instead?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - Example NOTICE file:
> > >>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/example-NOTICE.txt
> > >>> > ,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ok. I shall rewrite this to be in that style.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > Mockito is not mentioned with link as the others
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Will be added. :)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - server-config.xml, jsongadgets.json, jaas.config no license.
> > Maybe
> > >>> > others
> > >>> > > too? Please utilize: http://creadur.apache.org/rat/ it's a great
> > >>> tool to
> > >>> > > check our licenses
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Rat looks useful. I will add a note to the release page and on the
> > >>> > wiki, but I think it will be easiest to run standalone ATM.
> (Perhaps
> > >>> > it can be made part of the mavenized process though).
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - request_codereview wrong license (Google Inc)?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I am not even sure why this file hasn't been deleted yet. It was
> only
> > >>> > used for the old Google code reviews, and doesn't work with
> > >>> > review-board. (And has no reason to be made to work with it). I
> will
> > >>> > remove this file.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - files in /spec - allowed to distribute? No License given, where
> > do
> > >>> > these
> > >>> > > files come from?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > These files are the whitepapers behind the conversation and
> > federation
> > >>> > protocols that Google wrote. Should I just add the license header
> to
> > >>> > them and leave them where they are?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - src folder: we usually use org.apache prefix. Not seen any
> > classes
> > >>> with
> > >>> > > that
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Heh. You are correct that the org.apache prefix is not used at-all.
> > >>> > The majority of the code lives under the org.waveprotocol namespace
> > >>> > (for legacy reasons). Changing to use org.apache is a fairly major
> > >>> > undertaking, and would serve little purpose if the next release is
> > >>> > going to be mavenized (with the full codebase relocation that
> > brings).
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - thirdparty: allowed to distribute? Check with compatible
> > licenses.
> > >>> Full
> > >>> > > list whats working what not is here:
> > >>> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-a
> > >>> >
> > >>> > My understanding from the work Angus did is that these are all
> under
> > >>> > licenses allowing distribution. We have an ant task (ant
> > >>> > get-third-party) for the few we are not allowed to distribute.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - Wave Logo (/war) seems to miss TM symbol. Please check:
> > >>> > > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I assume you are referring to war/static/logo.png. Notably this is
> a
> > >>> > different image to the logo used on the incubator website. (Which
> > also
> > >>> > lacks a TM).
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Which of these should be used? Should they both have a trademark?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - Whats the meaning of wave-0.4-release folder?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > A good question. I don't remember seeing that before, but it
> > >>> > definitely shouldn't be there. :P
> > >>> > (It appears my branch folder wasn't quite as clean as I thought).
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > - Whats the meaning of whitepapers folder?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > This holds the rest of the whitepapers, but these are older than
> the
> > >>> > ones in spec/, and are no-longer fully up-to-date wrt. the code.
> > >>> > Though still often contain useful information explaining why
> > something
> > >>> > has been done in the way that it has.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Should I just add the license header and leave them there?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Alternatively, perhaps spec/ and whitepapers/ would be better
> > licensed
> > >>> > and moved into doc/?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Ali
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Alain Levesque Wavewatchers
> > >>> Wavyemailbeta:*
> > >>> *
> > >>> *Web Page <http://albonobo.com/>
> > >>> *
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>

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