To be clear, our principle aim is to make a wave platform. Dogfooding
our own software is only a major step if we call it one - I don't
think we should move discussion there *yet*, but thats an obvious
goal. Git isn't hosted in a subversion repository after all.

-J


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> Just a small thought to consider during this discussion.
>
> You are talking about some major changes to the tooling and workflow
> typical of Apache communities. Wave is currently in the incubator,
> making it a probationary project.
>
> I would say that the principal aim should be to understand the
> principles of the ASF, to demonstrate that understanding, and graduate
> from the incubator.
>
> Having done that, life will be easier when attempting such things as
> getting Wave enabled servers, engaging in PR, etc.
>
> Remember that graduation is based upon how the community operates, and
> has nothing to do with the quality, or otherwise, of the code-base.
>
> And the next big thing is getting that release out - proving that we
> understand how to correctly license(etc) our code. (We didn't actually
> get to the point of releasing, did we??)
>
> Upayavira
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Alfredo Abambres wrote:
>> @Christian: below are some small considerations of mine about WWers and
>> AW
>>
>> Disclosure: I'm a WWers member and I'm speaking as myself solely, not for
>> the network/organization WWer.org.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier
>> <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > I like WW being an independent community which creates buzz running by
>> > its own rules.
>> >
>>
>> At this moment, as I see it, "*independent*" is the keyword on all this
>> conversation.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > BTW, there is always the possibility to bring the WW community to the
>> > ASF too. Given
>> > the tools WW is using, it doesn't make sense at the moment. Maybe later
>> > when AW
>> > is stable and installed at ASF it makes sense to include the WW community
>> > as
>> > part of the AW community. Something similar happened with Apache
>> > OpenOffice.
>> > People were running a support forum for OpenOffice and they have
>> > joined the project.
>> >
>>
>> Thanks for your suggestions, it's great to see that our work matter and
>> that we can still add lots of value to the future of Wave and Apache
>> Wave.
>>
>> I *personally* don't see WWer.org ever becoming a AW community (but
>> things
>> change, right?!). That doesn't mean, that the community (people) that now
>> represent WWer.org can't form other communities, even within AW. IMO,
>> WWers
>> members are probably the best prepared ones to assume that role and make
>> it
>> happen, on a similar approach to your example about Apache OpenOffice
>> support forum.
>>
>> It's great to know that those "doors" exist and may be open when needed.
>> Once again thanks.

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