Yes, Joseph, the goal is to use the disciplines of Apache open source development to build a platform that will rock the world. The disciplines are important, but a sustainable, maintainable platform is the real goal that the disciplines facilitate.
All the best, John Blossom email: jblos...@gmail.com phone: 203.293.8511 google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Joseph Gentle <jose...@gmail.com> wrote: > To be clear, our principle aim is to make a wave platform. Dogfooding > our own software is only a major step if we call it one - I don't > think we should move discussion there *yet*, but thats an obvious > goal. Git isn't hosted in a subversion repository after all. > > -J > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote: > > Just a small thought to consider during this discussion. > > > > You are talking about some major changes to the tooling and workflow > > typical of Apache communities. Wave is currently in the incubator, > > making it a probationary project. > > > > I would say that the principal aim should be to understand the > > principles of the ASF, to demonstrate that understanding, and graduate > > from the incubator. > > > > Having done that, life will be easier when attempting such things as > > getting Wave enabled servers, engaging in PR, etc. > > > > Remember that graduation is based upon how the community operates, and > > has nothing to do with the quality, or otherwise, of the code-base. > > > > And the next big thing is getting that release out - proving that we > > understand how to correctly license(etc) our code. (We didn't actually > > get to the point of releasing, did we??) > > > > Upayavira > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Alfredo Abambres wrote: > >> @Christian: below are some small considerations of mine about WWers and > >> AW > >> > >> Disclosure: I'm a WWers member and I'm speaking as myself solely, not > for > >> the network/organization WWer.org. > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier > >> <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >> > I like WW being an independent community which creates buzz running by > >> > its own rules. > >> > > >> > >> At this moment, as I see it, "*independent*" is the keyword on all this > >> conversation. > >> > >> > >> > > >> > BTW, there is always the possibility to bring the WW community to the > >> > ASF too. Given > >> > the tools WW is using, it doesn't make sense at the moment. Maybe > later > >> > when AW > >> > is stable and installed at ASF it makes sense to include the WW > community > >> > as > >> > part of the AW community. Something similar happened with Apache > >> > OpenOffice. > >> > People were running a support forum for OpenOffice and they have > >> > joined the project. > >> > > >> > >> Thanks for your suggestions, it's great to see that our work matter and > >> that we can still add lots of value to the future of Wave and Apache > >> Wave. > >> > >> I *personally* don't see WWer.org ever becoming a AW community (but > >> things > >> change, right?!). That doesn't mean, that the community (people) that > now > >> represent WWer.org can't form other communities, even within AW. IMO, > >> WWers > >> members are probably the best prepared ones to assume that role and make > >> it > >> happen, on a similar approach to your example about Apache OpenOffice > >> support forum. > >> > >> It's great to know that those "doors" exist and may be open when needed. > >> Once again thanks. >