Yes, Joseph, the goal is to use the disciplines of Apache open source
development to build a platform that will rock the world. The disciplines
are important, but a sustainable, maintainable platform is the real goal
that the disciplines facilitate.

All the best,

John Blossom

email: jblos...@gmail.com
phone: 203.293.8511
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On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Joseph Gentle <jose...@gmail.com> wrote:

> To be clear, our principle aim is to make a wave platform. Dogfooding
> our own software is only a major step if we call it one - I don't
> think we should move discussion there *yet*, but thats an obvious
> goal. Git isn't hosted in a subversion repository after all.
>
> -J
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Upayavira <u...@odoko.co.uk> wrote:
> > Just a small thought to consider during this discussion.
> >
> > You are talking about some major changes to the tooling and workflow
> > typical of Apache communities. Wave is currently in the incubator,
> > making it a probationary project.
> >
> > I would say that the principal aim should be to understand the
> > principles of the ASF, to demonstrate that understanding, and graduate
> > from the incubator.
> >
> > Having done that, life will be easier when attempting such things as
> > getting Wave enabled servers, engaging in PR, etc.
> >
> > Remember that graduation is based upon how the community operates, and
> > has nothing to do with the quality, or otherwise, of the code-base.
> >
> > And the next big thing is getting that release out - proving that we
> > understand how to correctly license(etc) our code. (We didn't actually
> > get to the point of releasing, did we??)
> >
> > Upayavira
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013, at 12:47 PM, Alfredo Abambres wrote:
> >> @Christian: below are some small considerations of mine about WWers and
> >> AW
> >>
> >> Disclosure: I'm a WWers member and I'm speaking as myself solely, not
> for
> >> the network/organization WWer.org.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Christian Grobmeier
> >> <grobme...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > I like WW being an independent community which creates buzz running by
> >> > its own rules.
> >> >
> >>
> >> At this moment, as I see it, "*independent*" is the keyword on all this
> >> conversation.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > BTW, there is always the possibility to bring the WW community to the
> >> > ASF too. Given
> >> > the tools WW is using, it doesn't make sense at the moment. Maybe
> later
> >> > when AW
> >> > is stable and installed at ASF it makes sense to include the WW
> community
> >> > as
> >> > part of the AW community. Something similar happened with Apache
> >> > OpenOffice.
> >> > People were running a support forum for OpenOffice and they have
> >> > joined the project.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Thanks for your suggestions, it's great to see that our work matter and
> >> that we can still add lots of value to the future of Wave and Apache
> >> Wave.
> >>
> >> I *personally* don't see WWer.org ever becoming a AW community (but
> >> things
> >> change, right?!). That doesn't mean, that the community (people) that
> now
> >> represent WWer.org can't form other communities, even within AW. IMO,
> >> WWers
> >> members are probably the best prepared ones to assume that role and make
> >> it
> >> happen, on a similar approach to your example about Apache OpenOffice
> >> support forum.
> >>
> >> It's great to know that those "doors" exist and may be open when needed.
> >> Once again thanks.
>

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