why not just keep using XMMP?

elliottcable wrote:
> With the opening of the actual Google Wave preview today, I think it’s
> high
> time we re–opened the topic of the client–server (C/S) protocol.
>
> As the FAQ for this group says:
>
>   
>> What is the client-server protocol?
>> -------------------------------------------------
>>    The focus of our open source and protocol work at this point is on
>> the federation protocol, which is critical for getting inter-operable
>> server implementations, that is, for allowing many other people to
>> build Wave servers and have them interop with each other and with the
>> Google Wave server. We have definitely heard the requests for defining
>> a client-server protocol, but at this time the team doesn't have the
>> time to put into such an effort.
>>    If you are interested in working on the client-server protocol we
>> are happy to host that discussion here, and the client-server protocol
>> as implemented in the open source server would be a fine place to
>> start.
>>     
>
> Let’s get that discussion started, shall we? Federation is great, a
> user
> preview that dumb randoms can press pretty HTML buttons on is great,
> but Wave
> (the concept) is really quite useless until somebody can install a
> Wave client
> and talk to their Wave server of choice in that client, and read waves
> from
> other Wave users writing things in their own clients through their own
> servers. None of that is possible until we (client developers) can get
> started
> writing our client libraries, GUI clients, web clients, and
> programmatic
> clients… and none of *those* are possible until we have a guarantee
> that our
> hard work and sweaty hours of coding will produce a product that will
> be
> useful on more than just Google’s Wave server.
>
> No offence to the Google Wave team (everything else they’ve come up
> with is
> pretty great), but the RPC/protobufs solution is… very much a non–
> solution,
> really. What, exactly, do we all want to see in this protocol?
>
> I personally am interested in seeing XMPP become not only the
> foundation of
> the federation protocol, but of the C/S protocol as well. When I first
> heard
> about Wave, before getting into the Sandbox, I was very excited; it
> sounded
> like a great idea, based on great tools (XMPP!). Unfortunately, I was
> extremely disappointed to find that XMPP really has nothing whatsoever
> to do
> with Wave, and I’d like to see that remedied.
>
> Really, though, any sensible protocol that we can agree on would be
> great.
> Another option is possibly something involving JSON; that’d make
> JavaScript
> heavy–clients ridiculously easy to write for the web.
>
> Please, weigh in, and let’s get this hump over with!
>
> >
>   


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