Pictures definitely work for some applications.  Re-reading the "generic"
comment earlier, I think the implication was GWave tried to be a
Jack-of-all-Trades.  It could kind of do many, many things.  But it wasn't a
great document editor, or social network, or micro-blog, or wiki, or project
management tool, etc.

Wikipedia describes GWave as: "*a web-based computing platform and
communications protocol, designed to merge key features of media like
e-mail, instant messaging, wikis, and social networking*."

The underlying protocol has great advantages for all these applications.

However, creating a single interface that fuses all these "features" and
maintains its own conceptual integrity may not be feasible.

On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Gamer_Z. <[email protected]> wrote:

> I personally liked the idea of using someone's picture.  It seems to
> make sense, dragging someone's head to a wave to bring him or her to
> the discussion.
>
> Also, I agree that the use of GWT is the one of the biggest problems
> (at least for me).  I am glad to create mockups in HTML+CSS, but I do
> not understand GWT.
>
> On Nov 27, 6:24 pm, Kai Chang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > A wiki is a great idea.  Then we could tackle many disparate problems,
> and
> > start grouping similar ideas together into a coherent interface.
> >
> > I don't feel wave.google.com had a generic interface.  It was strongly
> > influenced by Gmail/Facebook, and threaded comments like Reddit.  Profile
> > pics, for instance, are used in at least four contexts:  Contact list,
> Wave
> > Inbox, at the top of a wave (participants list), and within a wave.  So
> you
> > can easily be looking at a screen in Gwave where you see the same pic 4
> > times.  To me, that screams Facebook.
> >
> > One thing I would like to see is more designer/developer friendly tools
> for
> > creating and modifying the interface.   Torben's Wala-compiler is headed
> in
> > the right direction.  Java/GWT is an incredibly high barrier to entry for
> UI
> > designers.
> >
> > I'm interested in creating HTML/CSS/JS mockups of design ideas.  Still
> > working on Tensor, which is a study in tree structures and contextual
> blips
> > (eg, an issue tracker wavelet where blips are tasks).
> >
> > Ideally, WIAB should eventually ship with multiple skins/interfaces.
>  These
> > should serve as starting points of different interface paradigms for
> people
> > looking to customize WIAB.
> >
> > Also, slightly too specific, how feasible would a Wiki-like two column
> > revision history be to build?  GWave's Playback was cool, but not very
> > practical for reviewing groups of changes.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 1:54 PM, Michael MacFadden <
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > Again I agree completely. Maybe I should set up a wiki page where
> > > people can most mock ups and ideas for us to discuss. As I said I
> > > think the more diverse ideas we can look at, the better off we will
> > > be.
> >
> > > Michael
> >
> > > On Nov 27, 2:23 pm, x00 <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Figure out aims (already started), project initial user base, get UI
> > > > people on board, don't be limited by gwt, look into methods of
> hooking
> > > > up interfaces, schematics, schematics, mockups, etc.
> >
> > > > *more detail*
> >
> > > > Wave is kind of user centric at the moment. I know it sounds
> > > > contradictory making a user interface other than user centric. But it
> > > > isn't  about making it less user friendly, on the contrary, more bout
> > > > striking the balance between task and the users (which obviously are
> > > > an important part of getting the task done). I created a schematic
> for
> > > > an interface that was more task centric, and it was actually like a
> > > > walk-through experience (wave agnostic). It is too specific for WAIB,
> > > > but the general idea that social media for the sake of social media,
> > > > whilst good for reaping personal information, is ultimately not
> > > > uniquely useful to the users other than status reasons, whereas
> things
> > > > like wave are about getting things done and communicating ideas
> > > > collaboratively. Obviously there are other synonyms for "task" but
> you
> > > > get the idea. I think architecture that reflects the aim to
> > > > collaborate on something makes sense.
> >
> > > > I know I said this before, but I'll say it again. “Conversation” is
> > > > just a default communication. It is one type of collaborative
> > > > communication amongst many possibilities. Granted it will be a
> popular
> > > > one that would be used along side app doc and other things.  However
> > > > it would be good in the long term to build all models and their
> > > > interfaces with api for that.
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