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wbmutbb-digest Tuesday, May 30 2000 Volume 02 : Number 162 Topics in this issue: Mayberry and civil rights need help with another quote There's Johnny! NTFS Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #161 Whites only on TAGS Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #161 I Won, I Won [none] Johnny Coons and other stuff ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:17:28 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Mayberry and civil rights >>>I didn't see the special on TAGS on TVLand. That's why I brought up the problem about no African-Americans (or blacks as we were told to say in the 60's - it seemed better than "colored"). I've always loved Andy and his friends, but always felt bad that there were only whites on it.<<< James Carville made an excellent point in that documentary, for those of you who didn't see it. He said if blacks were correctly portrayed in TAGS as they were in the small-town south of the 1960s we wouldn't be watching the show in reruns today. He's right. Aaron Ruben appeared to take full blame for not enough blacks being in the show but I still don't think that's fair. The CBS of the Jim Aubrey days was filled with escapist comedy--including a lot of rural shows like TAGS and Petticoat Junction that gave everyone an escape from the urban decay and riots we all saw on TV during that period. It was just their way of sidestepping controversy. Keep in mind Hooterville was all white too, along with Hilldale, Mayfield and numerous other small TV towns of that era. So I think the real blame lies with the networks here. I think had TAGS ever approached the ugly issue of racism, we would've seen Opie make friends with a black child and Andy teaching the good white people of Mayberry to follow that example. It would be in character for them. Even Barney would've probably said "Well of all the unmitigated gall" to a "whites only" sign at the diner... Dixon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 03:20:23 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: need help with another quote Thanks to all who helped me track down the origin to the "It's not a whim if you put on clean underwear" quote, now I have an even bigger favor to ask. That is, if anyone's feeling especially neighborly. The episode in which Opie falls for Helen, has a hilarious scene in which Barney is on the phone with Juanita down at the diner, asking her to go with him to the drive-in at Mount Pilot. Can anyone send me that conversation? I would more than appreciate it. Thanks to you and yours... Dixon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:59:26 -0400 From: "Dan Goodwin/Jobscope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: There's Johnny! Did you notice Johnny Coons was a member of the City Council that wanted to throw Frank Myers off his land? But he was good about it, he was right out there with the Mayor when the fixed Frank's house up. dan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 07:25:15 -0500 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: NTFS >I recently watched No Time for Sergeants (Birthday present:) and someone had said that Don Knotts is in the movie. What part >did he play? I don't remember seeing him in the movie? The version I have is the video made from the original tv movie. >Thanks, >Donny Don wasn't in the TV version, only the broadway and film versions. He played the Army psychiatrist. On the stage, he was also the understudy for two other parts, including Will Stockdale's (Andy's) father. The elder Stockdale was usually played by a man named Flody Buckley. Don likes to tell the story of the time he woke up sick as a dog and called the stage manager to say he couldn't work that day, but the manager came back with "Well, you're a whole lot better off than Mr. Buckley. He died last night." So far about a week, Don played BOTH parts. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:46:17 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #161 In a message dated 5/30/00 1:20:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I recently watched No Time for Sergeants (Birthday present:) and someone had said that Don Knotts is in the movie. What part did he play? I don't remember seeing him in the movie? The version I have is the video made from the original tv movie. >> If my memory serves me right, Mr Knotts played a corporal who had to administer a psychological test to Andy. He just had a short part in the movie!!!!BUMMER And if i am wrong....nah!!!!!!!!!!!! BrANdoN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:54:35 GMT From: "Harriet Browder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Whites only on TAGS >I've always loved Andy and his friends, but always felt bad that there > >were only whites on it. I think if the censors had been a bit braver, > >Andy could have been too. Everybody should have been able to love > >Mayberry, not just wasps. This comment is completely off base. If this is any indication of where this wonderful site is heading then I'll drop out today! There is nothing anyone can do about how Hollywood handled ethinics in television shows of the past. And there is no reason to dig for answers now. I'm insulted that someone would even make a comment such as this one. Let's keep this site on the lighter side of how wonderful the show is and not try to find the faults that would keep it off television in today's sensitive world. If we wanted to start a tirade of negatives there are plenty of catagories of which to chose from. There was recently a comment of why there was no mention of Vietnam in the show. That was in bad taste as well. You want reality? Don't watch television!!! I could just as easily ask - Why are all the sitcoms of today centered around sex and violence? Wouldn't that open a can of worms? Please, remember Allan's rules for the Digest, which can be expanded to rule number 3: it isn't really different than for life.....if you don't have anything nice to say - don't say anything! Harriet, now where are them dang chickens? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 08:21:58 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #161 <<I recently watched No Time for Sergeants (Birthday present:) and someone had said that Don Knotts is in the movie. What part did he play? I don't remember seeing him in the movie? The version I have is the video made from the original tv movie. Thanks, Donny>> Don Knotts played a corporal, I believe. He gave Will Stockdale (Andy) a test to take apart 2 rings and put them back together. Will, being a strong country boy, just bent them apart. Kelly ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:35:27 CDT From: "DEBORAH DUBOSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: I Won, I Won Oh, Bob, you mean I really won! I've never won anything in my whole life, and that's the truth! I got the Johnny Coons' question right mostly because he said it in the shoe salesman/tv producer episode, and that's one of my top 20 favorites, and I can recite every line in that particular show and I knew SOMEONE told Barney "Good luck" before he went in to play for the salesman. And about the 30 weight oil I won for my prize--sure, darling, that's fine. Any heavier, and I couldn't tote it. Now because of my health problems, the State of Alabama has decided, in all its Wisdom, that I must not be allowed to drive (either my computer just malfunctioned, or there was a great sigh of relief out there in computer land). So what I'm going to do will all this oil is to offer it to the first gold truck that will stop for it. It's harder than you may think to get a gold truck to stop for you and say hello. But now in addition to my "Laura Lee Hobbs welcomes All Gold Trucks" sign, I will have a "Laura Lee Hobbs will give away 30 gallons of oil to the first Gold Truck that will stop and chat with her." That ought to cause some brakes to slam. I just hope every gold pickup on Hwy 123 don't read that sign, and think I'm talking to them! And I especially hope said gold pickup don't have a gun rack on its back, 'cause things might get a little messy. Reckon the State in all its Wisdom will let me buy a gun? They could at least give me a car to run him over. Barney to fake FBI Agent: There's really three reasons why there's so little crime in Mayberry: there's Andy, and there's me, and (patting his pistol) Baby makes three." Laura Lee Hobbs, gold truck watcher, dime store clerker, and now big time contest winner ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 12:08:44 PDT From: "Ben Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [none] since everyone has been talking about these colored episodes, it has put me to thought...with the exception of a couple of episodes, most of the colored ones are sort of "dry". (i'm not trying to offend anyone who feels otherwise about them). to me, the sense of humor sort of died down and it became more serious than it used to be. i realize that the show was getting towards its end, but the colored episodes are still very dull to me. does anyone else feel this way about them? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 20:14:00 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Johnny Coons and other stuff I still haven't heard from any 'trained noticers" as to when an episode that has a clear shot of Mr Coons is coming up on TVLand. That way I could tape it and put his hallowed image on my website. Now on to other stuff... Sometimes I just put on a bucket and 'take a thank' about Mayberry stuff. Has any one ever thought about Opie's ma? I wonder who she was. She couldn't have been a childhood or highschool sweetheart because there's been talk of them (i.e. Sharon DuSpaine) Opie's ma must not have been a Mayberry native cause you'd think if her family was in Mayberry, they'd come around every now and then to see their grandchild or nephew or whatever.She probably didn't live in Mayberry until after high school or Andy's stint in the service. Since in those days folks mostly started their families as soon as they got hitched, you gotta figure that Andy didn't meet her until he was into his 30's and was already sheriff. I've got it figured that she must have been an orphan who was passing through Mayberry and maybe decided to stay when she saw what a friendly place it was and what a handsome young sheriff ran the town! Andy was totally taken by her, too. He probably urged her to take a job at the Snappy Lunch or the dime store (maybe she roomed with Laura Lee Hobbs!) After a whirlwind romance they got married at the church with Barney as the best man. And what caused her demise? I think it must have been complications in childbirth. In my head, Mrs Andy Taylor was a beautiful, petite, little bitty wisp of a woman; she just didn't make it through a grueling home labor. This explains Opie's bond with Rose; she was the only mother figure he had ever known. Has any one else thought about this stuff or do I just have too much free time on my hands? ~the inquiring misspoovey~ ------------------------------ End of wbmutbb-digest V2 #162 ***************************** ************************************************** ~ Visit our sponsor ~ Weaver's Department Store ~ http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/weavers/ ************************************************** You must send your comments to the Digest from the address you used to join WBMUTBB or your message will not be posted. Only members may post to this mailing list. 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