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wbmutbb-digest Tuesday, June 20 2000 Volume 02 : Number 198 Topics in this issue: T-Shirts Shotgun In The Squad Car Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #197 Re: Allan Melville Question? & answer (my answer anyway) Helen Crump on "Adam 12" bud-nipping Southern dialect Others in the squad car... Ever Notice? Mayberry Bloopers Re: squad car appearances wbmutbb V2#196 Re: reruns? re: Squad car appearances When the New was Still Old ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:22:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Becki Hickman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: T-Shirts Just wanted to let you know, I think the new t-shirts are the cats!!! Mine arrived yesterday and I was thrilled to see it! Thanks to Allan & Jan and the artist for all their hard work, time & effort. Lgrayson - I loved your vacation story about the selfish giraffe cups!! Does my heart a world of good when my young'en comes up with a Mayberryism. Mayberry will live well into the next generation. Becki in AZ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:23:05 -0500 From: "Hull, Darrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Shotgun In The Squad Car Off the top of my head, I can think of Ellie Walker riding with Barney to Frankie's farm to deliver "them female doodads" in "Ellie Saves A Female." Mary Simpson riding with Barney to Rafe Hollister's place to give him a shot in "The County Nurse." The Fun Girls took a ride with Barney. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:12:57 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Connie Degrassi) Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #197 Didn't "Sam the Butcher" from the Brady Bunch play the guy who was bullying Barney in one episode? Happy Trails! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:13:54 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Allan Melville In a message dated 6/20/00 10:08:22 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Nope...that IS Allan on the Brady Bunch. It's listed there at number 14. You just missed it. 14."Brady Bunch, The" (1969) TV Series .... Sam Franklin Allan >> Hey To All! Oh well, Phew! Let me give this big bucket back then! I am happy to hear my brain and eyes aren't deceiving me! And to think I just got new specks! Thanks for clearing that Allan went on to play Sam on "The Brady Bunch"! Want A Pickle? Sandi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:21:55 GMT From: "Doug & Maria Largent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Question? & answer (my answer anyway) Question? Is it polite to keep telling folks to hush up about one subject or another? Answer? (my answer anyway) No. Let's let Allan handle that. Opie: (in The Housekeeper [episode 1])"First they tell you to speak up then they tell you to hush up." ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:16:50 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth G. Anderson) Subject: Helen Crump on "Adam 12" While watching Adam 12 last night Helen Crump showed up as either a wife or girlfriend of Officer Pete Malloy. She must have a natural attraction to men in uniforms. Just like Romana. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:32:27 -0500 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: bud-nipping >>>...I was playing a tape of Les Miserables, one of my favorites ... I heard, "Nip it in the bud." ... So Victor Hugo was the first to use it, or was it the two masters who set it to music, Boublil and Schoenberg? >>> The earliest known usage of "nipped in the bud" appears in "The Tragedy of Brennoralt" by Sir John Suckling, who died over two hundred years before Hugo wrote "Les Miserables." I must admit I have never read the original "Les Miserables," so I don't know whether or not Hugo used the phrase, but if he did he wasn't the first to do so. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:41:22 -0500 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Southern dialect >>>Were early scripts phonetically written for those TAGS characters who needed to "sound southern"? Thanks to any body who can answer this long-held question!!! >>> None of the scripts I've seen had any phonetic spellings, but it is possible that some of the actors consulted dialogue coaches. Andy Griffith, Jim Nabors and George Lindsey are all from The South, so they probably didn't need any coaching (Don Knotts is from West Virginia - some would consider this The South, others would not). Other cast members, such as Frances Bavier (from New York) and Betty Lynn (from Kansas City) attempted to adopt a Southern accent early on, but soon dropped it because it didn't sound natural for them. Most of the citizens of Mayberry never spoke with pronounced Southern accents at all, except for Andy, Gomer and Goober. Andy's accent all but disappeared midway through the first season. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:44:49 -0500 From: "Johnson, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Others in the squad car... Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: squad car appearances >fun girls, opie, aunt bee, gomer, barn, ange, 4 criminals andy got his hand hurt over, helen, thelma lou, floyd, mayor stoner...< a bear, but he didn't go riding... Gary A. Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:59:00 -0500 From: "Hull, Darrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Ever Notice? Has anyone ever notice how many of TAGS episodes haveto deal with misconceptions about people's musical abilities? Think about it: Barney and the Choir: Choir Director John thinks that Barney can sing when he really can't (not a LICK). The Guitar Player: Bobby Fleet comments that a bumpkin like Jim Lindsey can't possibly play guitar worth anything. Mayberry Goes Hollywood (and others): Mayor Pike* brags about his daughter singing "Flow Gently Sweet Afton." The Mayberry Band: Andy passes Bobby Fleet's Band With A Beat off as the Mayberry Band (which can't play). Rafe Hollister Sings: The Ladies' League can't imagine someone like Rafe being musically talented. The Song Festers: Everyone is surprized, surprized, surprized when the discover that Gomer's awful speaking voice can hide an amazing singing voice. A Singer In Town: Clara and Aunt Bee are unsure about a popular singer's ability to sing "My Hometown" properly. *By the way, do you think that Mayor Pike was one of the Pikes that Floyd said nobody liked around Mayberry 'cause they were troublemakers? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:03:57 GMT From: "Harriet Browder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Mayberry Bloopers O' Bighead in Deetroit went and said my sentiments exactly. Whoever wondered if any of us have ever truly enjoyed a single show apparently needs a leg of lamb up side the head! That and a barrel of corn squeezins cause he's a might tight! Give me Mayberry kleptameneriacs, inarculations, moulages and compelsions anyday over what's on TV now! As Mary Tyler Moore said once about TAGS, "It's my daily dose of effervesence." Harriet, We're just a bunch of Goobernuts! ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:18:02 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: squad car appearances << fun girls, opie, aunt bee, gomer, barn, ange, 4 criminals andy got his hand hurt over, helen, thelma lou, floyd, mayor stoner, guy from the capital who saw andy with a fishing hat & polka dot tie on, ...... >> Don't forget the time Goober and Lydia came along for a memorable triple date. ("Goober, will you tell Lydia to quit hanging her head out the window like a dog?") Dixon =========== "Listen, I got a little extra special treat in mind for tonight...drive-in movie at Mount Pilot. Well, I don't know what's playing, what difference does it make?...Well, you know what I mean...tell me you know what I mean, yeah, of course you do..." - --Barney Fife to Juanita down at the diner ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:20:14 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Suzanne Burgess) Subject: wbmutbb V2#196 In my crossword puzzle dictionary the words for nothing include aught, ought, and naught. Of course there are many others but we haven't been talking about those. I think it's whatever you prefer. Shouldn't we ought to get off this subject? Mary Grace in Georgia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:27:47 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: reruns? I want to revisit an old question we touched on awhile back...did the writers consider the show would ever be in reruns? I would have to strongly argue...yes of course they did! When TAGS premiered, "The Honeymooners", "Sgt. Bilko" and "Amos 'n' Andy" were popular in syndication...CBS was rerunning "I Love Lucy", "Private Secretary" and "December Bride" heavily in daytime, along with its soap operas and game shows...and Elinor Donahue's former series, "Father Knows Best", had just ceased production, but CBS found it so popular they kept rerunning it in prime time. TAGS itself joined the CBS daytime rerun lineup in 1964, where it stayed until it went into syndication in 1971. So, yes, the writers were aware the show would be in reruns one day. What they probably *didn't* consider, though, was that 1) it would still be attracting hordes of viewers in the year 2000 and 2) that we would be paying such close attention that we would spot little mistakes, or even people like Johnny Coons popping up a lot. I have to submit that the writers always knew they had something special on their hands...but perhaps they didn't know they had something *that* special! Dixon =========== "Listen, I got a little extra special treat in mind for tonight...drive-in movie at Mount Pilot. Well, I don't know what's playing, what difference does it make?...Well, you know what I mean...tell me you know what I mean, yeah, of course you do..." - --Barney Fife to Juanita down at the diner ------------------------------ Date: Tue Jun 20 13:01:08 2000 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: re: Squad car appearances Don't forget "all them dogs!" Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:34:10 CDT From: "DEBORAH DUBOSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: When the New was Still Old Laura Lee, here. Man, that was some mighty fine cashew fudge. And, Dan, don't worry about it spoiling my dinner none. It's the mark of us Hobbs that we are known as beautiful, delicate women who can eat like buzzards. That's the mark of us Hobbs. I kinda wanted to clear something up for you real young folks, say 30 and younger. I believe Andy first aired Oct. 3, 1960, (oh, please, Lord, let me not be too way off) and it stayed on for roughly eight years, the first five in b/w with our dear Barney (please, please, please, Lord!). Anyway, my point is that during the summer months, out in Mississippi, when school was out, TAGS, as well as "The Real McCoys," and "I Love Lucy," came on as reruns (only we called them 'repeats' in those days). So, my little brother and I would see the shows over and over again, five days a week as long as we were out of school. Shelling peas and watching the morning line-up of those three shows, and in the afternoon, I would watch Loretta Young. I have no idea if other places aired these shows before they went off the air, but in Magee, Mississippi, they dang shore did, and we dang shore watched it. I suppose the line-up stayed the same year round, but I really can't remember. I only recall being able to watch those shows during the summer vacation during the mid-60's. So, to say we didn't get so see reruns of Andy until VCR's came along or cable TV is really not true. I was getting a full share of them as a kid. Seeing shows over and over again during summer vacation, and loving every moment of it. Maybe that's why after having an aneurysm and severe fall, and trying to recover memory, I could still remember large blocks of Andy's shows. Not names of kin, but dialouge between Andy and Barney. Just from seeing that show so often as a kid. Except when my stupid Cousin Grace visited and she hated Andy and Barney. I didn't just break Rule No. 2, my stupid cousin did. And it's all right if I call her stupid because she's MY cousin--she's ugly, too. My mother had this rule that when we had company we had to do what they wanted, but when little brother and I were the company WE had to do what our HOST wanted. Now I ask you, was that fair? I don't know about Miss Poovey, but if the Henderson's are interested, my accent is for real. Now a serious QUESTION: In "Convicts at Large" right before Al leaves with Sally to buy food, Big Maude (aka Ralph Henderson) says something I can't quite make out. Sounds like, "ackra backra." Seems as if maybe she's trying to talk a modified pig Latin the way Al did or some such language, or having trouble with some false teeth and meant to say "out the back way." But what did she say? Your help is much appreciated. As ever, your Mayberry friend and dime store clerk & gold truck receiver extraordinare, Laura Lee Hobbs Barney on spies: "They learn to talk better than any of us." ------------------------------ End of wbmutbb-digest V2 #198 ***************************** ************************************************** ~ Visit our sponsor ~ Weaver's Department Store ~ http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/weavers/ ************************************************** You must send your comments to the Digest from the address you used to join WBMUTBB or your message will not be posted. 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