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wbmutbb-digest Thursday, July 13 2000 Volume 02 : Number 234 Topics in this issue: Sarah and Juanita u-turn Re: Opie's name Opie & Lum and Abner Funny scenes Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #233 Re: Barney in Novel Re: Andy in "Opie's Group" Opie's name Ange and Barn in harmony Re: Opie's name Angry Andy Opie Favorite Lines NEWS FROM TAGSRWC HQ!!! The Count Lives! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:24:14 +0200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth G. Anderson) Subject: Sarah and Juanita Did you notice in "Return to Mayberry" that both Sarah and Juanita are at their same jobs as when they first appeared in TAGS. Mayberry must have been really slow in changing over to dial phones. Must have been late in getting state aid. Just like the parking lot around the power company. Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 18:50:35 -0500 (CDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: u-turn >It was really neat when Opie got to the party and found out that the >girl who jilted him (Mary Alice) had been jilted herself. I noticed when Andy and Helen and Opie and Mary Alice pulled away in the squad car Andy appeared to be making a u-turn! Good thing Gomer wasn't home on leave...citizen's arrayust! citizen's arrayust! - -Charlie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:20:24 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opie's name Opie Cates was, indeed, the bandleader on the late 1940s half-hour version of radio's "Lum 'n' Abner". I have heard that this may be where the writers got Opie Taylor's name but I couldn't swear to it in court. I had no idea Howard McNear ever appeared on L&A but it doesn't surprise me since he also played Doc on the radio version of "Gunsmoke." Dixon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 20:38:48 -0400 From: Ivan and Sallie Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Opie & Lum and Abner Opie Cates was the band leader for the Lum and Abner show. If you get to travel through WV you can hear Lum and Abner over WVOW FM at 7:30 am. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 02:21:50 GMT From: "Alison Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Funny scenes Hey to all, As I was watching TAGS the other night, a scene struck me as being particularly funny and lead to my wondering what my pick for the funniest TAGS scene ever would be. I even sat down and wrote out a little list of scenes that really make me laugh. I quickly figured out its not so easy to single out one particular incident from the literally thousands of comedy gems the show produced. However, I finally decided that the scene which strikes my funnybone the hardest is the one in the motorcycle episode (I'm shying away from titles so as not to get yelled at if I get them wrong) when the old men loafing in front of the courthouse disconnect the sidecar from Barney's cycle (pronounced "sickle"). I literally roll in the floor with laughter everytime I see this scene. I think what really makes it so funny for me is the reactions of the loafers. They are falling all over themselves, and the courthouse bench, with laughter. Andy even seems to get tickled. Two other scenes which I also love are Otis taunting Barney by singing "Barney's in jail!" and Barney trying to teach Goober the finer points of love by spying on Andy and Helen. What does everybody else think? Which scene strikes your funnybone in a special way? Thanks for listenin'. Doug "I'll take the Mr. Potato set" Johnson "THEY'RE DOIN' IT! THEY'RE DOIN' IT! Way to go Andy! You too, Helen!" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 22:59:31 -0400 (EDT) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #233 In the last digest Charlie wrote about the short sleeved bowling shirts and how you rarely saw TAGS characters wearing them. I was thinking the same thing when I saw the Cave Rescue episode the other night. Barney was wearing a short sleeve checkered shirt. It was the 1st time I had seen Barney's bare arms and I commented on how white and skinny they were. I think Charlie brings up a good point...back in those days, short sleeves were considered very casual for men. Even on the picnic Barney was wearing a t-shirt under his shirt. I recall a line from some classic tv show (don't know which one) where a lady was beside herself because she had walked in and caught a fella "in his short sleeves". Ain't it interesting how times have changed! ~the groovy misspoovey~ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:44:13 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Barney in Novel In a message dated 7/12/00 5:58:46 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << And these Donovans and their relatives are making you look like a complete idiot. A laughingstock for the entire world. I have seen Barney Fife turn out better police work than you." >> Hey Ken...don't make me do police work too, tell us the novel and the author??? Dixon =========== "Doc says there ain't nothing wrong with my throat. What you saw is my uvula! Everyone's got a uvula! You've got a uvula, I've got a uvula, all God's children got a uvula!" - --Barney Fife ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 23:53:15 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Andy in "Opie's Group" << I know Andy was more serious in the later episodes, but in this one he was downright humorless! He just doesn't seem like the Andy we all know and love. >> I think it's Barney, myself. I know that's been said before but I think I can put my finger on what it is... First of all, we don't see as much of Andy's humor in the later episodes because earlier, he had Barney to play off of. He could pick at Barney, call him a "squirt", tell him he could "take Aunt Bee", pretend to read the words "Warning: please use gloves" on Barney's aftershave bottle, give him the royal dickens when Barn's on the phone with Juanita...and it looked like two guys acting like guys who really cared at each other. But without Barn, there was no one to "pick at"--it would look cruel to joke that way at Howard's expense, elitist to act that way around Goober, rude to cut up that way with Floyd or Emmett, and downright mean to pick on Aunt Bee that way. Plus, Barney wasn't there to disarm him with a one-liner ("Your jaw muscle's working again!"). Personally, I think Andy was always kind of grumpy--in the first episode with the Fun Girls, he sports a black eye and looks like he's about to kill Barney. But we just notice it more in the later episodes. Dixon =========== "Doc says there ain't nothing wrong with my throat. What you saw is my uvula! Everyone's got a uvula! You've got a uvula, I've got a uvula, all God's children got a uvula!" - --Barney Fife ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 07:56:05 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Opie's name Maybe Opie's name is indicative of two initials for his given name, like perhaps Oliver Perry. I too was disappointed to see MUH colors other than orange and blue; in Return to Mayberry they were black and white; how boring is that? But that episode was sure fun! Aunt Bee of Orlando ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:13:59 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ange and Barn in harmony Seeing The Song Festers recently reminded me of my campaign to get Sparrow records to do an album of Andy and Don Knotts singing together. Wouldn't you just love to hear them in harmony once again? Remember "Sinners Lose All Their Guilty Sins" in the courthouse when they were cleaning out the files? Or their school song on the porch? If you feel the way I do, write to Sparrow Corp., Box 5010, Brentwood, TN 37024-5010. Just a postcard indicating your enthusiasm for just such a project will suffice. Aunt Bee of Orlando ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 09:09:26 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Opie's name In a message dated Thu, 13 Jul 2000 8:32:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Maybe Opie's name is indicative of two initials for his given name, like perhaps Oliver Perry>> No, Opie's name is "Opie." It's shown several times when he actually writes it down. This question is addressed in the Mayberry FAQs. Q. What was the origin of the name Opie? Was it short for something? A. Jim Clark once told me that Opie Taylor was most likely named for Opie Cates, aprominent bandleader of the '40s or '50s whom Andy Griffith and Sheldon Leonard both admired. I have never figured out if Mr. Cates' name was short for something else, or if it was really "O.P." Opie Taylor did spell his name O-P-I-E. It can be seen on the love note he wrote to Miss Crump in "Opie Loves Helen", and on the board he burned his name into in "Barney's Sidecar." --Paul Mulik ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 08:16:33 -0500 From: "Hull, Darrin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Angry Andy If you get TVLand and were able to watch the TAGS special, you shouldn't be surprised to see Andy uncomfortable and out of character in many of the latter color episodes. When interviewed for the show, he said that by that time, he had lost his passion for TAGS and almost resented having to come in for work. He also said that he began neglecting to memorize his lines and cues. The show had wandered so far away from where it started that it didn't feel like home to him anymore. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that his dissatisfaction with the show caused him to slack off on his lines and cues, and then the problems caused by his lack of attention to the lines and cues brought even greater dissatisfaction and on and on. The two negatives fed off each other until he decided to give it up. Okay, on to something more fun... What if the fine folks of Mayberry were put on an island like Survivor and each day, one was voted off? (I know, I know, Mayberrians would never vote each other off, but let's just pretend.) Who would be left at the end of a month? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 10:28:58 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Opie In a message dated 7/12/00 3:10:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I've not heard this addressed, but I've been thinking lately about Opie's name. I have never heard of another person or character with the name Opie. Does anyone know the origin of this name? >> If you go to the TAGSRWC web site and click on FAQs, you will find your answer. Kevin G. Turner "Now just forget that part of it, forget the part about the half a boy." "It's pretty hard to forget a thing like that, Paw!" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 11:51:20 PDT From: "james rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Favorite Lines Although there are a million lines that I just love (don't we all), there's one that just kills me that I've never heard anyone discuss (not just here, but anywhere.) I think it might be the situation, the timing, and Andy's inflection, 'cause by itself it's not a "funny" line. Either way, when Barney is driving the gang around in his car and the steering column pokes out and then goes limp, Thelma Lou and Gomer both say their peace, but what kills me is Andy looks over, pauses, and then deadpans..."I don't believe I've ever SEEN anything like THAT before." Man, that just kills me. Crazy... guess I just wasn't thinking, Jim ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 18:14:38 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NEWS FROM TAGSRWC HQ!!! The new date for the premiere of the Don Knotts installment on MSNBC's "Healiners & Legends with Matt Lauer" is Tues., July 25, at 10 p.m. ET. Also, an interview with Jim Nabors by country star Bill Anderson is scheduled to air on "Backstage at the Opry" on TNN this Saturday night, July 15. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 20:02:06 CDT From: "DEBORAH DUBOSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The Count Lives! Ladies and Gentlemen, I have an announcement to make: Count Ist Van Telecky Lives! How can I, Laura Lee Hobbs of the 21st Century, be so certain? Thought you'd ask. Do you older members remember me telling you of a certain visual disturbance I had where I saw some men stealing my next door neighbor's pool? Everybody thought I was good and crazy since this was one huge pool, but nobody calling me crazy now. See, the neighbors have been gone a couple of days and we've been keeping an eye out for their home--same as they do for us--only today my husband and children came back from Wal-Mart with the news the neighbors no longer have a backyard pool! I'm just hoping there's a logical explanation for it all; but basically I keep coming back to the Count. There's things out there, that all I can tell you is whhhooooo!!! Laura Lee Hobbs, pool hunting down in Ozark, AL ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of wbmutbb-digest V2 #234 ***************************** ************************************************** ~ Visit our sponsor ~ Weaver's Department Store ~ http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/weavers/ ************************************************** You must send your comments to the Digest from the address you used to join WBMUTBB or your message will not be posted. Only members may post to this mailing list. 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