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wbmutbb-digest Wednesday, October 25 2000 Volume 02 : Number 356 Topics in this issue: The little boat's name You ain't talkin' to a jerk, you know campaigning strange paragraph Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 - Paul Mulik Name of boat Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 (or, Pontification Personified) Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 Ange kissin' Barn????? the boat's name Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 - Blacks in Mayberry John Boy & Billy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:31:24 EDT From: "Harriet Browder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: The little boat's name >Big D and I have been racking our brain trying to think of that little >boats name.That was in the episode"The jinx" and also an episode where >an >escaped convict got in it to row across the lake,but of course he >had to >row back because of the leak!! >Can someone help us remember?Because the buckets aren't working!! Gertrude, and she wasn't worth a dollar and a quarter! If she was used in the Jinx, she had to have had her whole fixed. And if she didn't have it fixed, then whose boat did Andy and Hellen use when they had "their" day? Or all those OTHER times that Andy and Opie fished, don't forget blood brothers. Harriet, buckets galore............ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:27:50 -0500 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: You ain't talkin' to a jerk, you know >>>Paul, ...I just wanted to know if you could talk a little bit about how you know everything!! Is it just years and years of research or is there something in addtion? >>> I've seen every episode probably 50 times (the black and white ones, at least) and I read every TAGS book, newsletter, or article I come across. I am a homemaker, so I can usually find a couple of hours every day to watch TAGS tapes. I've also had the good fortune to meet almost all of the surviving cast members and had the opportunities to ask them questions about the show. Outside of that, I guess I just have a good memory for trivia. Strange as it may seem, I have a terrible time remembering the names of people I meet, but I can recall just about anything from TAGS. >>>Also, I saw your name at the begining of the Mayberry Memories book (what a book it is!) for your input and just wondered if you have any plans of writing a book of your own. >>> I was working on a book three or four years ago, but I never could interest a publisher. One of these days, I'll get back to work on it, but for now it's on the back burner. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 13:41:07 -0500 From: "Paul Mulik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: campaigning Hi Folks, I heard on the radio today that Ed Asner has contributed to a candidate's campaign by recording a telephone message which is being "sent" to voters over the telephone, sort of like telemarketing. I was just wondering if any of you who live in North Carolina might have received any recorded telephone messages from Andy Griffith. He has backed candidates in this way in the past. PLEASE, let's NOT discuss political candidates or parties here, this is not the place for that. I just wondered if Andy Griffith was doing this for this year's election. I know I'd be thrilled to get ANY telephone call from Andy, even if it was just a recording. - --Paul P.S. How I VOTE, brother, is MY business! When a man walks into that booth, he's alone with his conscience, and NOBODY gets to ask him how he voted. --B. Fife ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:33:38 -0400 From: "GRITTON, JOE A. (AIT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: strange paragraph I was sittin' here today with this big pile of work, and my darling wife called to tell me she had a brand new problem for me. The sink was clogged and she was leaving to go shopping. Realizing that we are masters of our own homes, I refused to call a plumber and drew a quick plan in my head for the hairy situation. I had to give it an earnest try myself. As I turned on the disposal and jimmied it, it made a loud "schwamp" sound and the remains of Campbell's Soup and olives splattered out all over me and the kitchen. My daughter came in after playing frisbee, "This can't be! she said "Mom's gonna declare a disaster area. She'll flip when she sees this". Are there any laws on the books for husband-beating, I asked. "To be frank, no" she said. "Is-'ere a way to clean this awful mess, you Goober?" I wanted to stone 'er I was so mad, but I decided to walk 'er to 'er bedroom and tuck 'er in bed instead so she wouldn't snitch on me. This wily old home-owner was not givin' up. I'd been through my low points before, and got out of harms way, and I had another ace up my sleeve. I took the trap off the drain and then took a metal slat from my barn, and bent it. I tried to weave 'er through the open end of the pipe. Viola!, My tailor-made tool worked. I wouldn't have to be sharin' the blame for this after all. I piked my bushy eyebrows and thought "I'm no dud, after all". how many? The Untrained Voice ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:23:49 -0400 From: Kyle D Romick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 - Paul Mulik Darin, Amen. I also look forward to Paul's comments. Kathy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:26:41 -0400 From: Theresa West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Name of boat > Big D and I have been racking our brain trying to think of that little boats > name.That was in the episode"The jinx" and also an episode where an escaped > convict got in it to row across the lake,but of course he had to row back > because of the leak!! > > Can someone help us remember?Because the buckets aren't working!! > Why, that boat's name is Gertrude. I guess I had my bucket on today! Theresa (Sue Grigsby) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:55:13 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 (or, Pontification Personified) 24/Oct/2-K In response to queries and comments by [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] of 10-24-MM: Yes, The Amos & Andy Television Show was bright and very funny. Theoretically, it could be considered a Black version of TAGS with Andy (Andrew J. Brown) being Barney to the Kingfish's (George Stevens') Andy Taylor or vice versa. However, to reiterate my comment of 10-22-2K (Re: to V-2 #352); ... "From my memory of either a magazine or television interview with Andy some 12-15 years ago, Andy, when asked about the lack of Blacks in character roles on TAGS, said that, [*] 'there were no Black characters in the show simply because of the realities of the socio-political climate during the time that the show was in production; and that, while the omission was a conscious one on the part of the producers and writers, it was done to avoid public controversy but not to be malicious nor to malign'. [ *undocumented paraphrased summary from my personal memory] {additionally, I believe that a couple of episodes of TAGS were written by Freeman Gosden and/or Charles Correll, who wrote most episodes of Amos & Andy} The protests and product sponsorship boycotts that were promulgated by the N.A.A.C. P. against the broadcasting of The A&A Show at the time reflect, at least in part, some reasons why there were no Black People cast in character roles on TAGS. I, who am a Black American, also cherish the great comedy of the Amos & Andy program and having been able to see other people who looked like ME on national television then, which, in and of itself, was an anomaly during that period of racial contentiousness and strife. However, now that our national posture with/for/of/about race has changed [at least on the surface], I find NO difference in the presentations broadcast by the media today (in their efforts to assuage the entertainment tastes of Black Americans) than the comedic images and fodder of radio & television of the 40's, 50's & 60's. At least, even then, there were some TV exec's who dared to even allow Blacks to appear on television (The Amos & Andy Show of Radio featured Caucasian actors in 'Black Voice'). Remember the controversies about Nat "King" Cole having and hosting his own TV show(s)? Or the "The kiss that sucked around the world" between Sammy Davis, Jr. and Raquel Welch on national television? It seems that entertainment along with other elements and societal issues are relative to the sociology and politics and bigotry of a culture (the inquisitions, the witch hunts, etc.) AT THEIR TIME in history. At any rate, keeping in mind that what WAS yesterday helped us to get to what IS today - and we're moving beyond this, even... even though true utopia isn't possible in reality - But progress is just THAT; even with it's attendant qualifiers. My wholesale apology for using this forum as a soapbox but I couldn't resist the opportunity to grandstand on or for this reality check. Webmaster, please feel free to edit or delete these my comments as you deem fit for this - your and the participants' forum ... but, I believe that Andy & Barney would both agree that this is perfect time at this place on the hill to 'Nip Speeders In The Bud'. (If you give 'em 35 they'll take 40, ad infinitum, etc.) Videos of the Amos & Andy Show can be purchased from a company called: Video Yesteryear Box C Sandy Hook, CT 06482 Or one can peruse their catalogues and titles of old radio and tv programs that they sell online at: www.videoyesteryear.com/video.htm P. S. to RedRuby Star: Ruby Begonia was the name of a (Cleroy) Flip Wilson sketch character from his television show and vinyl comedy album, "The Devil Made Me Buy This Dress" [BMI, {Little David Records - 200 West 57th St. NYC 10019}. From a Fiip Wilson comedic take-off of the fairy tale, Rapunzel. [ { ...DO RUBY BEGONIA RING A BELL!?!... }. Or go to iWon.com and enter "Flip Wilson" or "Cleroy" in the search box for additional references. ] And, the wife of Kingfish was named Sapphire... "A-ah-ah-A-ah A-N-D-Y!!?! What Is I Gonna D-O-O??!?!?" "Kingfish, you is dumber than you looks 'cause you thinks that you is smarter than everybody. But I is here to tell ya that you ain't smarter than nobody..." Tom Strongbow (Henry D., Birmingham) ******************************* (NOTE FROM ALLAN: Wow. Thank you Henry for this great note. I agree that it isn't strongly about TAGS but I think, because of past and future discussion about "Black in Mayberry", that your comments are well taken and we are thankful for them. --Allan) ******************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 23:31:49 -0500 From: "Corey Sawyers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 To: Gary Patterson I don't remember them calling the name of the boat on The Jinx episode, but I do know in the Manhunt episode it was called Gertrude. You know, right now I wouldn't take a dollar and a qwarter for that hole! ~Liberty Darlings ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:03:25 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ange kissin' Barn????? In a message dated 10/24/2000 11:52:02 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Maybe I missed an episode, but I don't remember Andy ever kissing Barney. >> Hey Paul... HA, HA, HA, HA,HA Thanks for the chuckle! Crystal M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:08:47 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: the boat's name In a message dated 10/24/2000 11:52:02 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Can someone help us remember?Because the buckets aren't working!! >> The boat's name was Gertrude. I'd just like to know where in the world you get a name like Gertrude for a boat!! Crystal M. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 08:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Darryl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V2 #355 - Blacks in Mayberry Howdy to you and yours! It is worth repeating..... TAGS regularly featured African Americans in their crowd scenes (which I always appreciated, being Black myself!) and was one of the first shows to do this! And I'm waiting for the "all Andy Channel"! I haven't said this before: Thank you Allan for this site! Darryl "Tuscarora" Banks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 16:09:27 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: John Boy & Billy Hey folks, Just so you'll know to listen if you can... Jim Clark will be on John Boy and Billy on Thurs. around 8:45 CT. Y'all listen and call in!!! Allan ------------------------------ End of wbmutbb-digest V2 #356 ***************************** ************************************************** ~ Visit our sponsor ~ Weaver's Department Store ~ http://www.mayberry.com/tagsrwc/weavers/ ************************************************** You must send your comments to the Digest from the address you used to join WBMUTBB or your message will not be posted. Only members may post to this mailing list. 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