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wbmutbb-digest Monday, February 12 2001 Volume 03 : Number 047
Topics in this issue:
Andy Taylor Character: Earlier Vs. Later Episodes
Kudos to a trained noticer
Uplifter's Dance
(no subject)
Evolution of the Accent
Different Things
Re: accents
The Sermon for Today--Second Try
Floyd's last name
Book Signing...
no time for seargents poster
Story on the Mayberry Bible Study
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 22:30:27 -0500
From: Michael R Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Andy Taylor Character: Earlier Vs. Later Episodes
In a previous message, Kim noted the following concerning the evolution
of the Andy Taylor Character:
I have been an Andy Griffith Show fan for many years and love to watch
the old black and white episodes. There is one thing about Andy Griffith
that I have noticed that bothers me about the later episodes, especially
the ones without Don Knots in them. In the earlier episodes, Andy is
laughing and smiling all the time and is always happy. In the later
episodes he is very serious most of the time and acts depressed really.
All the southern accent is gone as well. Has anyone else noticed this?
Kim Milgate
I have too noticed this and even read about this. I found it in a book
by Richard Kelly entitled The Andy Griffith Show on pages 40-41. It
reads:
As Don Knotts developed the character of Barney Fife, the acting
style of Andy Griffith began to change. There was a period of time during
the early years of the show when Griffith was still performing in the
style of his recorded monologues, such as "What It Was Was Football". He
spoke in a frantic, and, in general, played a heavy-handed rural clown.
He gradually abandoned the overpowering comic role and became more
serious and thoughtful, as noted by Aaron Ruben:
He was being that marvelously funny character from No Time for
Sergeants, Will Stockdale--not quite that broad because he was
still sheriff, but in that direction. One day he (Andy) said, "My God, I
just realized that I'm the straight man. I'm playing straight to
all of these kooks around me". And he told me once, "You know, I
find it hard to look at the first year's show on reruns." He didn't like
himself--and he was right, and in the next season he changed,
becoming this Lincolnesque character.
When Griffith first attempted the role of Andy Taylor, he had, as
he said, "only a feeling and an instinct." The evolution of the character
was one of the most significant factors in the popular and artistic
success of the show.
I found this intersting when I frist read it, and thought it may be of
interest to those here.If you have not read this book, I would highly
recommend it.
Michael Ramsey
Tennessee
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Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:45:35 -0700
From: "Tom Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kudos to a trained noticer
Congrats to Paul for his reasoning on the Andy-Barney relativity
question. You're a regular Ein-steen. It has puzzled me and mine for some
time, and I think Paul's answer may well be correct.
I also thank him for the numbering system.
That was a classic combo of actor and script for unforgettable moments of
pure comedy. Thanks again for invoking it.
And the return of the BW Andy episodes is a relief and a pleasure to all
Andy fans. Gomer says hey.
Tom in Montana
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 15:26:12 -0600
From: "Joe Fly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Uplifter's Dance
Greetings, Fellow Mayberrians!
Recently wife and I were watching the episode
in which Ellie Walker, the desperate hunter, attempts to 'trap' Andy into
matrimony.
She 'tricks' him into asking her to the dance,
"not a Legion dance, not a Chamber of Commerce dance,
not an Uplifter's Dance, but a CHURCH dance!"
My question is-- what's an Uplifter's Dance?
Anybody familiar with that particular term?
Also, does anyone know when the second volume of
Neil Bower's fine reference, "Mayberry 101" will be
published? The back cover says it is the first of a
planned three volume set.
"Watch your foot, I'm about to rock forward!"
Joe Fly,
in Lubbock, TX
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 17:34:58 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (no subject)
Subject: Re: accents
. In the earlier episodes, Andy is laughing and
smiling all the time and is always happy. In the later episodes he is very
serious most of the time and acts depressed really. All the southern accent
is gone as well. Has anyone else noticed this >>
speaking as a "true" southerner i have to say that the "southern" accents in
the VERY early shows were ,well, annoying to me as they were ( i am searching
for kind words)...well they sounded fake...but the accents quickly became
more believable...i am speaking of barney, andy and aunt bee....gomer and
goober sounded like real southerners right off the bat....
pam, a georgian in texas
Andy was never the same after Don left the show. - The Milo Boys.
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:33:05 -0500
From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Evolution of the Accent
Hi Gang...
I believe that it has been written in some of the TAGS books about the
change of the character of Andy after the first season. If you will
recall in the pilot episode from the Danny Thomas show the "hickness"
was even worse than the first season. The producers later scaled it
back as the show went on. I have to agree though, that in the color
episodes especially, Andy's character took on more of a meaness, with
lots of snaps at opie that you never saw in the earlier years, plus lots
more bossing around of aunt Bee, like when he told her she could not
take flying lessons, or wear the blonde wig etc. He just seemed to look
tired all the time in those episodes.
I didn't catch Dawson's Creek either, as it often gets bumped or moved
around here because of basketball games. Would like to hear from more
about what they thought of his performance.
Have a good one! "don't you have homework to do or something?"
Mike Peacock
P.S. I'd like to encourage everyone to use the subject line when
replying to the bulletin board. Some days with so many emails I scan
the legend at the top to see what's being talked about and some days its
mostly something like "Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #45" which automatically
appears unless you change it. Just something to ponder under the
bucket, LOL.
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 00:56:47 -0000
From: "Charlie Brakefield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Different Things
> > anyways to go off the
> > subject for a sec...YES I AM A HUGE VOLS FAN...WOOHOOOOO...Hollie
> >
> >
>
>Well, we will try and not hold that against you...
>
>Roll Tide - Dane Hawk
Ditto Dane - Boomer Sooner!
I don't know the answer to Paul's trivia question but I'll bet Colby
is NOT the right answer. That's just WAY too easy for one of his questions.
He's tricky...
- -Charlie
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:09:19 +0100
From: Tod Lawlis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: accents
> . In the earlier episodes, Andy is laughing and
> smiling all the time and is always happy. In the later episodes he is very
> serious most of the time and acts depressed really. All the southern accent
> is gone as well. Has anyone else noticed this >>
As I heard it explained once, the accent was brought to the show from Andy's
early comedy days. However, the TAGS producers and Andy didn't feel that he
could keep it up over a long period of time - that his character needed to
evolve a little more. So, he kind took a little of the "twang" off'n it. I
don't know if that's the reason or not, or even if I 'splained it very well,
but that's my two cents...
Tod "Baron von Rick-toven" in Nigeria
"I thought I'd sing something from the light classics. You know, "Tico
Tico" or "The Umbrella Man".
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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:29:51 -0600
From: "Rick Willis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: The Sermon for Today--Second Try
Whoa! For some reason my last post went through without Crystal M's
comments. Thought I'd try again since it makes more sense when you know
what I'm talkin' about.
Crystal M. in AL wrote:
<>
If I'm not mistaken, what Andy is writing on is the church offering
envelope--because, if I'm not mistaken, we also see him lick the flap and
seal it after he writes on it.
It's a nice little touch of genuine church culture. You put your
contribution inside and write your name and the amount on the envelope. When
I was a kid, we also had several little churchly-check-points on our
envelopes, like 'Bible brought,' 'Bible read daily,' 'Sunday School lesson
studied,' 'Worship attendance' . . .
One of the endearing things about this episode is how realistically it
portrays a typical Sunday morning in the 'Bible Belt,' right down to the
manic, urgent flight out of the house (family snipping at each other on the
way) before everyone puts on their best behavior for the congregation and
preacher. What a classic!
- --Rick "dry as dust" Willis
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:40:50 -0600
From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Floyd's last name
>>>Well, let's see... In "Convicts at Large", Sally calls Floyd "Charlie
Chase", and Big Maude calls him "Four Eyes". Then in "Mayberry Goes
Hollywood", Mr. Harmon the movie producer calls him "Mr. Colby" as he and
Andy are leaving after talking with Floyd on the street. "It was a pleasure
talking to you, Mr. Colby", is what he says, I believe.
Is one'a them names and characters what you were a-gropin' for, Paul?
>>>
I was going for the last one, but it doesn't sound to me like Mr. Harmon
says "Mr. Colby." Listen to it again, and I believe you'll hear him address
Floyd as "Mr. Feldman."
BTW, it's actually Charley Chase, not Charlie. Mr. Chase was a famous actor
of the silent film era, and Floyd does bear a resemblance to him.
>>>Now I'm flying blind here (no reference books, or episode guides) but
doesn't Andy call him Floyd Colby in the episode where the producer comes to
town and everybody goes crazy?
>>>
The window of the barber shop does have the name Colby painted on it in just
that one episode (Mayberry Goes Hollywood), but nobody ever ADDRESSES Floyd
by that name, so that answer doesn't meet the conditions of the original
question.
- --Paul
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:36:53 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Book Signing...
Hello to all the wonderful Mayberrians out there...
I just had to send a note to the digest and tell everyone about a wonderful
meeting I had Saturday. At our local Davis-Kidd Booksellers store here in
Jackson, TN, Mr. Jim Clark and Mr. Ken Beck were on hand from 1-3pm to
autograph their book Mayberry Memories-The Andy Griffith Show Photo Album. I
stood around for 15-20 minutes talking to these guys and found out what a
wonderful, down-to-earth couple of guys they actually were. I had contacted
Mr. Clark about a year ago about our local TAGSRWC Chapter and he had sent me
a name and number to contact. Believe it or not, he remembered me just by
asking my name. It's nice to meet someone who seems to care about what he
does in the area of "TAGS". As we went on talking I told him that the
contact he had sent didn't work out and he informed me a new chapter had been
started and he would send me the info as soon as he got back home. How
nice...!!! He also called me back over to the table when the person who was
the original contact showed up and then we talked for a few minutes. It was
a very nice experience.
I haven't looked at or read the whole book yet but I can already tell you
it's great. If you don't have it...GET IT!
Well, that's all for today...
Jacob in Jackson, TN
"You're a real nice son, Barn."
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 15:56:46 -0500
From: "Tim Hutcherson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: no time for seargents poster
in response to corey sawyers' request for "no time for seargents" items:
there is a place called the nostalgia factory which sells movie posters. i
checked the website and they have a 40x30 folded poster of "no time for
seargent" for $21.75 plus tax. you can check out their selection at
www.nostalgia.com. just type in the name of andy griffith for the search.
they have lots of other of his movie posters and related items also. tim
hutcherson
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:06:51 EST
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Story on the Mayberry Bible Study
http://www.beliefnet.com/index/index_10031.html
Hey Folks,
The link above takes you to a new story about the Mayberry Bible Study. I
haven't read it yet so I'm not sure what they think about it but I believe
it's good.
Allan
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