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wbmutbb-digest Monday, July 2 2001 Volume 03 : Number 184
Topics in this issue:
voice of Aunt Bee
Looks like a Gomer sort of truck
Re: Opie Home Alone
Home Alone
Nashville Reunion
Catching Old Sam
Re: ships
good job on Limericks!--from the Untrained Voice
Navy ships
Voiceover
Otis Again
TAGS on DVD
TAGS on "Millionaire" and other splashes
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:20:15 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: voice of Aunt Bee
In a message dated 7/1/01 10:26:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Regarding the Return to Mayberry episode, I always wondered why
> they didn't use Aunt Bee's real voice when Andy was remembering. It seemed
> so out of place not to use an actual voice clip of one of the TAGS
> episodes.
> Anyone have an explantion?
Supposedly, Frances Bavier refused to record the speech, swearing she never
ever said the word "underwear" and never would. (A 1963 episode reveals
otherwise.) The speech appeared to be modeled after one from an early
episode but they probably didn't want to use that one because Andy and Opie
kept interrupting her and there was too much background noise on the actual
soundtrack...
Dixon
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:30:40 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looks like a Gomer sort of truck
>I thought the truck was Gomer's for some reason. It just looks like a Gomer
sort of
>truck.
Lisa,
If I was a bettin' woman, I would bet you're right. Remember, Gomer hauled
other folks around - taking Thelma Lou to the the dentist comes to mind right
off.
"It's no trouble, no trouble a'tall." or, something like that. It would be
just like Gomer to do that. Aunt Bee coming to town was in the "pre-Gomer"
episodes, but he was likely a Mayberry home-boy, so it does make sense.
It could have been just about anyone with a truck, really, because in OUR
Mayberry, just about anybody would do his neighbor a favor. Just because
another driver was not in the scene doesn't mean that in the story there was
not a guy kissing his wife good-bye, getting that last sip of coffee, hugging
the kids, and petting the dog before he went to take Aunt Bee back to the bus
on his way to work...
I shall add these possibilities to my personal Mayberry history.
Aunt Bee from Modesto, CA
Jacquie Bauman
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 00:47:15 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Opie Home Alone
>I just think it was a different world, a time when a kid
>could be left alone in the house for a short period of time now and
>then. Back then, the whole neighborhood were your parents. If an adult
>told you to stop doing something, you STOPPED!
This is so true, Miss Poovey. I also grew up in a small town, and people did
keep an eye on each other's youngsters.
I do think it was someone else's truck, BUT if it was Andy's, he could have
left the little geezer for a few minutes without worrying about stranger
abduction or a serial child-murderer taking his precious boy. This is one of
the reason's we all want to live in Mayberry, is it not?
Aunt Bee from Modesto, CA
Jacquie Bauman
The countdown to heading east to South Carolina and Tennessee has begun - 12
days - I'll be close enough to Mt Airy to almost smell the kerosene pickles...
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 01:11:52 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Home Alone
In a message dated 7/1/2001 11:39:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I just think it was a different world, a time when a kid
>
Hello Everyone:
I couldn't pass this one up, Miss Poovey. It may have been a different
world back then, but as a parent, grandparent, and school teacher, I can
state this as a good example. The stove could blow up as it did when my Gran
was cooking. This was the good old days and it blew her against the wall,
blew the kitchen window out and created a minor fire that was put out by two
other adults that were at home. Gran was bruised and slightly burned by the
blast. I could go on and on with unforeseen circumstances. The point is
that it was not a good thing then and it is not a good thing now to ever
leave a child unattended in a home. By the way, it may interest you to know
that as a teacher, I would be compelled by law to report such an incident.
As far as your neighbor giving you that "little spanking," well . . .
that's another story, but I won't get into that.
Have a good week everyone. It is going to be a hot one.
Jeanne (from West Virginia)
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 03:55:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Rose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nashville Reunion
Just wanted to make a quick post and say I loved the
show at Nashville. It was good to see all my friends
again. It was great to finally be able to get Don
Knott's autograph. He looked real good this show. It
was again, great to see Allan & David roam around
through the crowd. I wonder what causes that? Don't
sound like a feet sleepin' thing. The Opryland Hotel
was nice, real nice. And Big. That's the only word
that can describe it. BIG. Oh, big ain't the word
for it.
Lookin' forward to seein' everyone come MD'01.
See ya soon,
Mr. Schwump
=====
http://www.geocities.com/southbeach/3250/darlings.html
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 08:38:08 -0400
From: Rob Hardin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Catching Old Sam
I love the limmericks and I know they must be hard to write. But the one about
Howard catching Old Sam with ham is a little off. I believe Howard recounts
the story by using potato salad left over from lunch.
Rob
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 07:38:13 -0500
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ships
Funny someone mentioned the USS Fife. My father actually served on the USS
Barney DDG-6 in
the late 60's/early 70's.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 08:56:29 -0400
From: "GRITTON, JOE A. (AIT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: good job on Limericks!--from the Untrained Voice
Dear fellow Limerick writers
Dave and Angela Forbus, you are on a roll, great job!
Jeanne from West Virginia, you make me so proud
SBCmusic way to go!
Charlie Brakefield, you got the fever man
the thinning fatman, you got it goin' buddy
djronbrown, you are in tune man
Maureen Kawalski, you're crackin me up girl
This was so much fun, Nine out of ten times I start something it ends with
a silent thud...no responses.
Apparently a few folks enjoyed this, and we have quite a few poets (who
don't know -it) A few more while we're hot here.
There was a Mayberry lady named Clara
Who was the biggest gossip, other than Sarah
A friend and competitor of Bee
Queen of pickles and roses was she
Her chances of being humble were quite narra
There was a Lady named Thelma Lou
Teasin' Barney was one thing she'd do
Gomer noticed her good looks
Edgar C. had her work on hymn-books
But she stuck to her Fife man like glue
There was a school girl named Karen
who was so cute she had poor Opie starin'
He stood on his head to woo 'er
And gave her the grand courthouse tour
but what joined them was a "grown woman" scarin'
There was a manicurist named Ellen Brown
who came looking for a friendly sort of town
She manicured the fellas
"til the ladies got jealous
'Cause her good looks had the guys chins dropping down
There was a butler from Great Britain
Malcolm's ways were proper and fittin'
But he had to leave May-berry
When he got drunk on the Cheri
So today that's all of written--Joe Gritton
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:34:12 -0500
From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Navy ships
>>>As a US Navy veteran, I like doing research on the subject. I have
discovered a Destroyer, DD-991, the USS Fife! I wonder if the motto of the
crew is "Nip it in the bud."
ws
>>>
I remember a few years back, someone doing similar research turned up a list
of vessels that included not only the USS Fife, but listed immediately
before it was the USS Fearless! I wonder if after the USS Fife, there was a
USS Foxy? Probably not.
- --Paul
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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:45:17 -0500
From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Voiceover
>>>I always wondered why they didn't use Aunt Bee's real voice when Andy was
remembering. It seemed so out of place not to use an actual voice clip of
one of the TAGS episodes. Anyone have an explantion? How about it Paul, if
anyone should know it has got to be you. "There's no doubt about it, Paul
is the smartest man I have ever known."
>>>
I stand before you a humble man, all choked up with humbleness and humility.
Now to your question: nobody seems to know for certain why Frances Bavier
did not perform Aunt Bee's voice in that scene. One story has it that she
refused to do it because the script contained the word "underwear" and she
found it offensive. This sounds like a lot of baloney to me, because they
could simply have re-written the scene to suit her, and besides, she said
"underwear" more than once on the show (see the episode "Andy and Opie,
Bachelors.")
I think it is more likely that her refusal to participate in the film was
due to a combination of her failing health and her intense desire for
privacy after her retirement from show business. She lived a quiet and
reclusive life in Siler City, NC, living with a housekeeper and several
cats. She reportedly admitted absolutely no visitors to her home, not even
Andy Griffith or Ron Howard.
- --Paul
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:48:37 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Otis Again
This weekend a cable channel (Turner Classic Movies ??) paid a tribute to
the passing of the great Jack Lemmon by showing many of his movies. Did
anybody notice a drunk Santa Claus in the movie "The Apartment"? It was
Otis practicing for TAGS.
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 15:02:33 -0400
From: "Ronald Cook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TAGS on DVD
For those of us who don't get out much, here's a link to find TAGS on DVD.
http://search.auctionwatch.com/usearch/results.html?terms=best+of+andy+dvd&s
=hmp
I have purchased 2 DVDs from VC71. He is a very nice guy and trustworthy.
His e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Drop him a line and tell him you
want A) The Best of TAGS Special Edition which contains 1) Class Reunion; 2)
Opie & the Spoiled Kid; 3) Aunt Bee's Medicine Man; 4) Andy's english Valet;
5) Rafe Hollister Sings; 6) Andy Discovers America; 7) The Darlins Are
Coming; 8) Mountain Wedding.
and/or B) The Best of Barney SE 1)high Noon in Mayberry; 2)The Great Filling
Station Robbery; 3)The Rivals; 4)Dogs, Dogs, Dogs; 5)The Loaded Goat;
6)Barney's First Car; 7)A Wife for Andy; 8)The Big House.
The DVDs are produced by UAV (www.uavco.com) and the quality is excellent.
I think they cost about $9.00 each. PLEASE NOTE: The regular edition
contains 3 episode while the special edition contains 8.
Gotta go see the doctor. My feet are falling asleep! Does anyone know what
causes that?
Lotsa luck to you and yers!
Ron Cook
Marietta, GA
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Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 09:45:59 -0400
From: "GRITTON, JOE A. (AIT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TAGS on "Millionaire" and other splashes
There have been two recent Andy Griffith connections on "Who want to be a
Millionaire?"...though one is really a stretch.
On one question Regis asked was what Andy's occupation was. Well Duh! glad
they didn't miss that one. It was the $300 question. On another show, the
question was about the meaning of the word "antebellum". Well, I didn't
know the answer, but I sure knew who would've been a good phone-a-friend
lifeline. Frank! You know...blamed grading manual Frank!. The one that
could throw a curve ball and play guitar and knew all that stuff. When he
was at the Taylors he commented that many of the houses on main street were
antebellum. Is that anything like A-capella? I had to look it up. It
means pre-civil war. But I do remember this...Dear guests, fellow students,
members of the faculty, over the past year....
When someone was commenting about our limericks, they referenced Aunt Bee's
comment about Fan Fiction. Just to clarify..though some may find limericks
just as objectionable (sorry) as she finds Fan Fiction, it is something
totally different. Aunt Bee and I had a off-line discussion since I am one
of the biggest fan fiction offenders or authors depending on your
perspective. Fan fiction is when we present-day fans pretend we are the
show's writers, and write a small scene or a whole script of what we imagine
could have also happened in Mayberry. Some fans dislike this because they
don't want to tamper with the Mayberry and the 249 episodes that we all know
and love. Miss Poovey and I both speculated recently in the Digest about
the missing details of Opies Mom. That's a good example of Fan
Fiction--where we don't try to change anything in that Mayberry of our
minds, but just fill in some gaps and speculate on other things that could
have happened.
Personally I think its very similar to watching someone like David Browning
be a modern day Barney or Allan a modern day Floyd. So, basically you have
the purists and the dreamers. (and we respect each other....they got a
uvula, we got a uvula, all God's children got a uvula)
The other thing about Fan Fiction is that the text can get long...which goes
again the Digest's ideal format of many short entries. Allan (he's a
prince) created a Fan Fiction section on the Website so us dreamers would
have a place to share our stories with other fans...and not clog up the
Digest. (like I'm doing now) with long entries. I just use the Digest now
and then to publish excerpts so the new Digest folks know about the Fan
Fiction section. I respect the purists like Aunt Bee of Orlando so I won't
overdo Fiction in the Digest.
just thought I'd try to clear that up--enough about that tomato
I may be high-spirited but I'm not sensitive, don't call me sensitive--The
Untrained Voice
http://mayberry.com/tagsrwc/wbmutbb/anewsome/private/fanfiction.htm
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