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To Send your message to the WBMUTBB Digest address it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wbmutbb-digest Sunday, October 14 2001 Volume 03 : Number 310 Topics in this issue: Ramona's last name Just call him Floyd That Lucy visits Andy idea [none] Floyd or Mr.Lawson divorce,mountain style Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #309 Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #309 Episode # ? first name basis TV Sets book this and that Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #309 Floyd/Mr.Lawson ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 16:32:01 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Ramona's last name Ramona's last name was Ancrum. It was mentioned on the show. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 17:49:05 -0400 From: Lisa Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Just call him Floyd > That's something that's always struck a chord with me - one of many > ways I can directly relate to TAGS. As a child growing up in NC, I > probably referred to most of the adults I knew by their first names. > Hmmm maybe it's an NC thing, I've never thought about that > possibility. The man my dad's boss for a while wasn't "Mr. > Mitchell," he was "Clyde." I never referred to aunts or uncles by > that title. It wasn't "Aunt Carolyn" just "Carolyn." There was > never a hint of disrespect or over-familiarity. So, it makes perfect > sense to me. > > Don (ummmm, I mean Donald) Good I did the same thing growing up. I called my aunts and uncles by their first names without the Aunt or Uncle, and people I knew well from church or other friends of my parents, I called by their first names, too. (I guess it is a WV thing, too!) Now at our current church, most of us - children and adults - call some of the ladies "Miss" and then their first name. When I was growing up, one of my best friends would always call my parents and other adults Mr. or Mrs., even when they told her that she was welcome to call them by their first names. Her mom and grandmother raised her that way, and she still addresses people older than her that way. I never even thought about calling people I was familiar with by a title with their names until I knew her, but it does show a lot of respect, even though we never meant disrespect to people by not doing it. I guess Opie was allowed to call male friends of his dad's by their first names. But didn't he call Clara "Miss Clara" or "Mrs. Johnson"? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:34:38 -0400 From: "GRITTON, JOE A. (AIT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: That Lucy visits Andy idea Back a few weeks ago someone mentioned a Fan Fiction story where Lucy would pass through Mayberry. I have been intrigued by that, and thought about putting something together whenever I get time to do more Fan Fiction stories. (I know I know not everyone likes Fan Fiction). But I saw a recent Lucy episode that was really pretty close (and there is a TAGS connection here, so stay with me). Lucy Ricky Fred and Ethel were traveling (I believe through Tennessee) and indeed they get stopped for speeding. The arresting officer was none other that Ole Ben Weaver (actually Will Wright) from the Christmas and Scobies Foreclosure episode. When they get to the jail, he takes off his jacket and changes from the arresting officer to the presiding sheriff (sound familiar--Sheriff and Justice of the Peace). This particular episode also features Tennessee Ernie Ford, who like Andy Griffith began his career in both Music and Comedy. Quite a treat...and Ben was a good Sheriff. I can't tell ya The Untrained Voice ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:52:27 -0400 From: "Debbie Rauch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [none] Wonder whatever became of that great map behind Andy's desk or that great poster in Floyd's barber shop? Just wondered. Wouldn't you just love to have those?! Are you gonna get obtuse? Debbie in SC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Nancy Loadholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Floyd or Mr.Lawson I don't want to be pushy or nothin',and maybe it is a NC thing,but I've always been in SC and my Daddy would've tanned my backside if I'd ever called an adult by their first name,relative or not.It was always Mr. or Mizzzzzzzz so and so or if they were close friends then they were referred to as Aunt or Uncle ,whether they was "blood kin" or not.My neighbor has been "Aunt"Berta for all of my 45 years and I wouldn't think of calling her by her first name only.Love Opie,but my Daddy'd have given him a talkin'to for that.Anyway,the other day I was reading an article in our little town paper and they referred to a man in a nearby town that runs a produce stand named Otis Campbell.Well,I'm easily amused so I thought that was neat. Hey to you and yours........fifechick __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:50:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Nancy Loadholt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: divorce,mountain style This is one of my favorites too,just love watching Barney and all the problems he has getting that horse to go in the right direction.Anyway,the thing with the horse canceled ou the divorce proceedings so Dud and Charlene were still married. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 22:09:35 -0400 From: Jewell Kutzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #309 Hi - Thanks to all the WBMUTBB members who said "Hey" to me at Mayberry Days! And a special "thank ya" to all those who bought copies of my new book. (Could it have been because your picture from the 2000 Mayberry Days was in it?) There was a record turnout and nobody seemed to mind that Ernest T. was throwing rocks at everybody. (Eat your heart out Charlene! - I got a mountain bear hug from Ernest T. when we were both signing autographs at the Oak Emporium on Friday!) For the rest of you who didn't have the joy of joining us in Mount Airy the last weekend in September, the book is now available at Weaver's online. If you want a good idea of what this "tell all" book is about, check out my website at: www.memoriesofmayberry.com. - Then click on to Weaver's and order it. (Bet you didn't know that in the "Return to Mayberry" TV special, when they referred to Sheriff Patterson having died and both Barney and Andy were considering running for the job - they were using the name of the REAL Sheriff of Andy's youth in Mount Airy. Read all about him in Chapter Two of the book - he was definitely as colorful as any of the fictional characters on TAGS.) We'd 'preciate it! JEWELL MITCHELL KUTZER Author of MEMORIES of MAYBERRY: A Nostalgic Look At ANDY GRIFFITH'S Hometown, Mount Airy, North Carolina (It's MY Hometown, Too!) www.memoriesofmayberry.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 00:47:52 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #309 In a message dated 10/13/01 2:58:44 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I don't recall that Ernest T's Ramona (or Romeena to him) ever had her last name (..Beasley?) identified, did she? >> Her name was Ramona Ancrum. She is the granddaughter of "Rotten Ray" Ancrum. In 1870, he came down out of the hills and burned the town of Mayberry down. He then started the Ancrum Charcoal Company. This is all explained in the epilogue of the episode. Johnny <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/tv/hoftog";>Mayberry Giants: Hit One for the Ol' Goober</A> http://www.angelfire.com/tv/hoftog ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 01:41:00 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Episode # ? Howdy ya'll- Anyone know which episode has Andy and Helen neckin' on the couch, while Barney is on the other couch getting nervous? I checked the episode guide but couldn't narrow the search; maybe it wasn't Helen? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 08:02:01 -0500 From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: first name basis >>>Not at all. Andy was there and seemed to approve. Floyd,....I mean Mr. Lawson, was tight with the Taylor family.... It appears to me that Opie just addresses everyone in town the same way his father does. If Andy says "Floyd" (instead of "Mr. Lawson,") then Opie says "Floyd." If Andy says "Miss Edwards," (not "Clara") then Opie says "Miss Edwards." Generally, Andy address all of his friends, and every Mayberryite younger than he, by their first name. He normally addresses older citizens by their last name (preceded of course with the appropriate title: Mr., Miss, Reverend, etc.) - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 08:04:14 -0500 From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: TV Sets book >>>Hey yall, does anyone know how acurate the TV SETS Book of the map of Mayberry is? Generally speaking, it's pretty accurate, but many details are impossible to nail down precisely because things changed from episode to episode. There's also a pretty good map in the book "Mayberry, My Hometown." - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 07:41:34 -0500 From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: this and that >>>Anyway, does anyone know if Don Knotts is truly allergic to horsehair or was that an act? If it was an act, he did a great job. Probably not, since he worked with horses in "The Shakiest Gun in the West" and the two "Apple Dumpling Gang" films. >>>Also, I wanted to know if Charlene got divorced, when did she and Dud remarry? The next time we see Charlene and Dud getting married, they are only in front of a preacher to please Ernest T. The divorce never did "go through." The episode with the preacher (#94, Mountain Wedding) came BEFORE the divorce episode. - --Paul ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 14:30:16 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: wbmutbb-digest V3 #309 In a message dated 10/13/2001 3:44:02 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Opie did call Floyd "Mr. Floyd" in the episode In the south, many children call the elders Mr. and Miss while using their first name. It is very respectful. For example, you may call your Sunday School teacher Miss Patricia or Mr. Don if he is a man. Of course, you still call your school teacher by their last name, never by the first name. Using Mr. Floyd would not have been disrespectful at all. My boys, while growing up mostly in Alabama, called several people by that name. My secretary name was Cathy, so they called her Miss Cathy, even though she was married. I hope this helps................ Larry in Oklahoma (used to be Larry in Bama) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:13:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Floyd/Mr.Lawson I have also noticed Opie call Goober-Goober,Howard-Howard as well as Floyd-Floyd.The only one I know who Opie calls by their last names is Mrs.Edwards& Mrs. Crump... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! 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