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Today's Topics:
1. Re: "colored episodes" (Groesch.McCluskey)
2. Where's Otis? (Paul Mulik)
3. vol 1 #319 RFD meaning (Mark Johnson)
4. Opie/Pop/Movie (GTTEM)
5. Re: duplicate sets (Robbie Curlee)
6. Spaghetti ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
7. Otis in color (Chuck)
8. Re: WBMUTBB digest, Vol 1 #321 - 20 msgs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
9. Coors ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
10. Re: WBMUTBB digest, Vol 1 #321 - 20 msgs (Lisa Jackson)
11. Otis in color ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
12. School memories (Mari Ellen Ryan)
13. Re: WBMUTBB digest, Vol 1 #321 - 20 msgs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
14. Poor Andy (Steven W Chapman)
15. Re: Duplicate sets ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Message: 1
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Groesch.McCluskey)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "colored episodes"
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:03:15 +0200
> << On Helen's cooking ability... didn't she
> cook spaghetti for Andy one time... it was
> in the colored episodes..."
> Goober Linda - I know the secret ingredient
/////////////////////////////////////////////
I hate to be "picky," but it is sorta like a
dentist's drill-- or fingers on a chalkboard.
"Colored" episodes is not only grammatically
incorrect-- AMOS & ANDY might be considered--
in the 60's-decade-speak of the time of TAGS--
"Colored" episodes. TAGS, however, has NEVER
EVER been C-O-L-O-R-I-Z-E-D... the B&Ws are--
and always have neen B&W. The COLOR-episodes--
which MAY appear to be B&W-- if you DIDN'T/DO
NOT have a color TV [Aunt Bee won one]-- have
always been IN color... NOT colorized. Some
old SHIRLEY TEMPLE movies have BEEN colorized
(from the original B&W in a F-A-K-E color pro-
cess known as digital-colorization),a few other
ones ARE in actual TECHNICOLOR.
Now colorize that!
"Mac"
{Currently on vacation
in SCOTLAND-- wow--
is it Colorful!}
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 09:24:12 -0500
From: Paul Mulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Where's Otis?
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Why is Otis absent from the color episodes of TAGS? .... I did see a
show once where Andy returned to Mayberry and Otis was a Good Humor man.
>>>
As the story goes, one of the "big wigs" at General Foods (The Show's
sponsor) was an alcoholic. He was offended at seeing a drunk on TV, so
rather than take responsibility for his own actions and do something about
his problem, he forced the producers to eliminate Otis from the cast. Otis
appeared in only two color episodes.
Otis was an ice cream man in "Return to Mayberry" (1986). By that time, it
was socially unacceptable to have drunks on TV, no matter how harmless and
lovable the character. They still wanted Hal Smith in the cast, and they
still wanted Otis to be sort of silly, so they came up with the idea of
making him the ice cream man.
--Paul
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Message: 3
From: "Mark Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: vol 1 #319 RFD meaning
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 10:30:18 -0400
RFD - A post office term Rural Free Delivery, I think.
I will look like a deputy and act like a deputy
Mark
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Message: 4
From: "GTTEM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Opie/Pop/Movie
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 10:14:10 -0500
> Opie ever move on?
In "Return to Mayberry" Opie has finished college and is the owner of the
newspaper in Mayberry.
> Whenever I've used the word down south (pop) people look
> at me like I just stepped out of a space ship>
John, do they say soda or "sodie" in NC?
>I did see a show once where Andy returned to Mayberry and Otis was a Good
Humor man. I think in that same show Thelma Lou asked Helen why Barney
never proposed. Does anyone know what that show was?
That was the two hour movie "Return to Mayberry" which first aired several
years ago. I, unlike some TAGS fans, loved it, taped it, and have watched
it many times since the first airing. Barney and Thelma Lou finally tied
the knot in the movie. And Opie became a daddy That Opie was the cutest
little boy - I could have just eaten him up!
Thelma Lou from the great state of Missouri
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Message: 5
Reply-To: "Robbie Curlee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Robbie Curlee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "wbmutbb digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: duplicate sets
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 11:40:36 -0400
"All of the above also applies to the courthouse / barber shop. If we see
characters sitting on the bench in front of the barber shop but we can't see
the street, then that scene was filmed on the duplicate Main Street set.
Paul"
Paul, thanks so much for this explanation - I often wondered about the barber
shop "exterior" when the street wasn't shown - the lighting just didn't quite
look like the outdoors. Thanks again!
Robbie Curlee
Barnwell, SC
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Message: 6
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 12:50:11 EDT
Subject: Spaghetti
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<< I thought it was Helen who cooked the spaghetti but it was her uncle's
recipe. I could be wrong. "Dinner at Eight" was the name of the episode and
it's still my favorite "colorized" TAGS. Tracey (Maudy) Zopp >>
I think you're correct, Tracey. I just didn't think - it's painful.
Goober Linda - The mind is a terrible thing......... to lose that is.
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 09:52:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Otis in color
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Why is Otis absent from the color episodes of TAGS?
>>I know Floyd is absent due to his health and Gomer
went off to the Marines, but I never heard what
happened to Otis. I did see a show once where Andy
returned to Mayberry and Otis was a Good Humor man. I
think in that same show Thelma Lou asked Helen why
Barney never proposed. Does anyone know what that
show was?<<
Otis was in a color episode where Warren gets Otis to
take up mosaics as a hobby.
Chuck
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Message: 8
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:14:06 EDT
Subject: Re: WBMUTBB digest, Vol 1 #321 - 20 msgs
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 8/24/2002 7:05:20 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I did see a show once where Andy returned to Mayberry and Otis was a Good
> Humor man
That was the 1986 movie "Return to Mayberry."
Kevin "John Masters" Turner
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Message: 9
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:11:33 -0400
Subject: Coors
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The year after we married in North Carolina, we drove to Texas to visit
my folks for the Bicentennial. Friends asked us to bring back a case of
Coors as it was not available east of the Mississippi at that time. I
was worried sick we'd get in trouble but we were never stopped. When did
it come east anyway?
Aunt Bee of Orlando
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 17:01:55 -0400
From: Lisa Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WBMUTBB digest, Vol 1 #321 - 20 msgs
> I think
> Michigan is one of the few places you'll hear people
> say "pop". Whenever I've used the word down south,people look
> at me like I just stepped out of a space ship!.......Just an
> observation..................John Saylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We call soda "pop" here in West Virginia. We look at people funny if they call
it soda. Aw, heck, we look at people funny anyway... ;) Lisa
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Message: 11
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 18:01:34 EDT
Subject: Otis in color
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 8/24/02 7:04:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Why is Otis absent from the color episodes of TAGS?
He appeared in at least two color episodes that I can remember. There's the
one where he takes up art, and makes the goofy-looking cow. And there's the
one in which the crooks have Andy and Howard tied up but Otis meanders up to
the cabin to get his stash.
Dixon
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 19:25:19 -0400
Subject: School memories
From: Mari Ellen Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hey Rich and all! I went to a two room school house in Northern New York
state and I had one of those Disney bus lunch boxes!! I was so proud of it!
I remember all my sandwiches were on homemade bread my mother made and we
had little bottles of milk with a cardboard cap ( cost 2 cents). I had the
same teacher for 1st thru 3rd grades, in the same room (Mrs. Thomas): each
year you would just move back a row until 4th thru 6th grade which was in
the other room. We would gather every morning for music and sang songs like
"Little Brown Church" (the one I love to hear Malcolm Tucker sing) or "Down
in the Valley" like Miss Peggy sings with Andy (my favorite of all!) I
remember tying my 2 pennies in the corner of my hankerchief for milk and
actually believing the portrait on the wall at school was of Ruth Bailey,
our lunch lady, not, in fact George Washington. (Now remember Andy thought
his blind date looked like Benjamin Franklin, these things can happen) I
remember us taking Friday afternoons to gather the whole school (about 20
students) to play Bingo for penny candy and we used corn because we ran out
of chips. I remember my teacher crying when school prayer was deemed
"unconstitutional" and telling us we could still pray silently. All the
sights and smells of that school house are vivid in my mind and the
innocence and love I had there I see each day in our beloved Mayberry. I
cherish those memories and I am so glad to have a group of people around
that understands what is really important in life. I am only 46 years old
so I feel very lucky I grew up where I did (my brother is a deputy sheriff
and still lives there). Thanks for letting me share.
Lots of Luck to You and Yours, MER
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Message: 13
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:04:54 EDT
Subject: Re: WBMUTBB digest, Vol 1 #321 - 20 msgs
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 8/24/02 5:05:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> From: "Carol Stonemetz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:52:10 -0500
> Subject: Where's Otis?
>
> Why is Otis absent from the color episodes of TAGS? I know Floyd is absent
> due to his health and Gomer went off to the Marines, but I never heard what
> happened to Otis. I did see a show once where Andy returned to Mayberry
> and Otis was a Good Humor man. I think in that same show Thelma Lou asked
> Helen why Barney never proposed. Does anyone know what that show was?
> --
>
Off the top of my head I can recall at least one of the color episodes
featuring Otis. That was the one where Andy was taken hostage by crooks and
Howard enlisted Otis' help to rescue him.
Actually Howard McNear as Floyd was a regular cast member up through the
next-to-last season, when ill health forced him to retire. I believe he died
just prior to the final season.
The final show you are referring to was a 1985 made-for-TV movie "Return to
Mayberry". The reason Barney hadn't proposed to Thelma Lou was because
shortly after he took the detective job in Raleigh she met and married
another man and moved to Jacksonville. In "Return" it turned out Thelma Lou
had divorced so the romance between her and Barney was rekindled.
Hope that helps, but somebody please check my accuracy.
Regards,
Kevin (:-D
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Message: 14
From: "Steven W Chapman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Poor Andy
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:59:16 -0400
Darlene, the kitchen's right through that door, if that's what your gropin'
for.
That Darlene's knees ain't near as puffy as they used to be.
I cain't hardly stand it.
Well, I cain't give her much for purty, but I declare I got to give her
points for muscles.
That Mary Wiggins..........I can understand that...she sounds WILD.
Is this the way it's gonna be...Law, what'd I get into...
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Message: 15
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 00:10:29 EDT
Subject: Re: Duplicate sets
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In a message dated 8/24/02 7:05:17 AM US Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> There were actually TWO front porches, and TWO Main Street sidewalk sets.
> It's much easier to film indoors than outdoors (due to weather, lighting,
> noise, etc.) and since so many episodes included shots of the Taylor's front
> porch and the Courthouse / Barber Shop exteriors, they built duplicates of
> those sets.
Trained noticer alert!!
As a photographer, I have noticed an easy way to tell if a scene was filmed
on the lot or on a soundstage -- by the lighting. If it was filmed in the
studio, the lighting is relatively soft and even and the contrast is well
controlled. If you look at the shadows behind the actors, you will sometimes
notice more than one set, indicative of key and fill lights coming from
different directions. If it was filmed outside on the lot, the lighting is
harsher, more contrasty, and the shadows on faces are darker, all
characteristic of midday sunlight (though I'm sure they still used some fill
lighting to control these effects). Sometimes, the same scene will switch
from a close-up filmed in the studio to a longer shot filmed outdoors on the
lot. Then the lighting differences are pretty apparent, even to the
"layman." There are a number of times this happens in scenes in front of the
courthouse or in front of the Taylor home. See if you can spot it!
There's another clue to whether a scene outside the courthouse/barber shop
was filmed on the soundstage or on the lot. If a car drives up, notice
whether or not there is a curb separating the street from the sidewalk (e.g.
towards the end of the "Punch in the Nose" episode). I've noticed a few
times there is no curb, so these scenes were obviously filmed in the studio.
Thelma Lou
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