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Today's Topics:
1. discipline (Kim)
2. Re: Disciplining Opie (Don Good)
3. Whipping vs. spanking ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
4. Gettin' a whippin' (Dot J Phillips @ IntelliTeam Inc)
5. Whippin's (Janine Johnson)
6. That Smarts! (John W. Sasser)
7. Real Good! (John W. Sasser)
8. Mayberry Days ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
9. Whipping/spanking (Janet Anderson)
10. Wall Calendars (Richard_Veit)
11. Mayberry ahead of its time (GRITTON, JOE A (SBC-OPS))
12. " Reflections " (Dave Millard)
13. whipping ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 10:18:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: discipline
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Speaking as someone born and raised in TX, I got "whuppins". In school it was
"paddling" but I don't think they do that any more.
Kim - Wylie, TX
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 13:26:20 -0400
From: Don Good <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disciplining Opie
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>There has only been one thing that has ever really bothered me about Andy.
>That is his reference several times to giving Opie a "whipping" for doing
>something wrong. Opie even asks if he was going to get a "whipping" when he
>accidentally killed the mother bird. I know Andy probably gave Opie a
>spanking, and that it was a very acceptable punishment back in the 60's, but
>it has always bothered me when he used the word whipping. It has such a
>negative connotation from when and where I grew up. It sounds so abusive.
>Is this a phrase that was used for a spanking in the southern regions of the
>US? We all know that Andy was such a loving father, it just seems so out of
>character. Just find it interesting that the writers chose to use that
>particular term.
I grew up in NC, just a tad younger than Opie, and the term "whipping" was
indeed commonly used. I never thought of it as abusive, but I see how it
might come across that way if you're not accustomed to its use. There's a
big difference between terms like "whipping" and "beating."
Don Good
(But maybe I'm nave. I don't even see anything wrong with "third
party." It's not dirty.)
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:42:06 -0400
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Whipping vs. spanking
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Allen Newsome said:
I don't know where you grew up but yes..in the south a spanking and a
"whippin'" is the same thing. I had several whippin's growin' up and I
deserved almost every one. :)
Actually I grew up in Alabama and I was raised to believe they were different
things. A spanking meant I was going to get slapped on the behind by my mom's
or dad's hand. But a whipping meant they were going to use a belt or a switch.
I can't honestly say I deserved every spanking or whipping I got, as I had an
occasionally spiteful sibling that like to frame me for stuff just to see me
get the tar wailed out of me. Surprisingly, that prepared me very well for
adult life in the workplace.
I always presumed Andy took his belt to Opie, but thankfully we never saw that
unpleasant experience. There was a hilarious "Good Times" episode once in
which James took a belt to Michael's hateful spend-the-night company and we saw
it and heard it.
Dixon
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 14:42:41 -0600
From: "Dot J Phillips @ IntelliTeam Inc"
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Subject: Gettin' a whippin'
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Ken, I'm from NE Texas and everybody I knew called a spanking a "whippin' "
and a whipping was a "beatin' ". I never had any bad feelings over a
whippin' and I knew every time I got one I did deserve it. I was 3rd of 4
kids within 6 years apart and usually we all got it at the same time. I
distinctly remember the very last whippin' I got was because I did not come
straight home from school, about 10 blocks away; I went to my friend's house
first and stayed about 30 minutes. Her family and mine were close and
socialized but I didn't call to let Daddy know where I was and he was really
scared about me disappearing. I deserved it and never got another whippin'
after that. I was in the 5th grade.
It is interesting that depending on what part of the country you're standing
in, how what you say sounds or what it means. My grandchildren have an
English nanny and what she calls biscuits, we call cookies; what we call
biscuits, she calls scones.
Dot J from Colorado Springs CO
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 18:01:21 -0400
From: "Janine Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Whippin's
To: "WBMUTBB Newsletter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Don't know about the origin of words. My Daddy was from Texas; Mama from
Missouri; being he was a Marine, we lived all over the USA. Seems everyone
referred to it as a whippin' or whuppin'. In either case, I got many and
deserved them all. Some modern folks like to tell me I was abused but I tell
them that all 7 of us chilluns ain't never been in trouble with the law and are
all productive citizens and faithful Christians, as well as having a loving,
respectful attitude towards our parents. I think corporal punishment should be
allowed as long as we keep an eye on potential abusers.
Aunt Bee of Orlando
P.S. My friend Laura and I have our reservations for the cruise and are excited!
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:31:25 -0500
From: "John W. Sasser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: That Smarts!
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Re: Is this a phrase that was used for a spanking in the southern regions of
the US?
I concur with Allan. Growing up in the Deep South, I received a 'whippin' or
two (and one or two from the principal at school, too). It just basically
means spankin'. It was also referred to as switchin'. Now them switchin's
was rough on the naked leg!
John W. Sasser
"I believe you know what I'm talking about."
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 19:32:55 -0500
From: "John W. Sasser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Real Good!
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Re: Ms. Pressly has been trying to make it in Hollywood for years, so it's
fun to see her doing well. She's funny. And easy on the eyes (imho).
Yeah - nature's been good to her.
John W. Sasser
"Real, real, real good."
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 22:02:02 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Mayberry Days
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I have been fortunate enough to attend Mayberry Days for the last several
years and have always enjoyed seeing the shows. The Dillard's always put on a
good show and we especially like Michael Hoover in the memories of Elvis.
This year it seems like Colonel Tim's talent show just did not offer as much
in the way of "Mayberry" entertainment as it has in the past. We really enjoy
seeing the stars, and the skits and scenes from the show that the tribute
artists do so well. I missed these this year, or maybe I just would like to
see
more of this type of thing. We are from Ohio and travel over 800 miles round
trip each year to spend a weekend in "Mayberry" and so look forward to these
events, but quite frankly if I wanted to listen to a band play 4 or 5 songs, or
a gospel group do 5 songs, or watch square dancing, I can do that alot closer
to home.
It's not that these groups were not good, they certainly were, it's just not
what I come to Mayberry Days to see. We come back to visit "Mayberry" and have
just a little bit of it come back to life for us if only just for a couple
days. I noticed that the times that David Browning and Allan Newsome stepped on
the stage and provided us with a little Mayberry humor is the time when the
playhouse was full of laughter and the audience's faces seemed to light up.
These two are so talented and have a good supporting cast around them. I
would like to see more of them. I realize they can not be out there all the
time,
all I'm saying is that some of the acts could be limited to one or two songs
instead of 4 or 5, and we could have a little more of Mayberry thrown in
between. Over the years at various events I have seen some really great skits
and
scenes and I guess just like watching the show I never get tired of it.
I enjoyed the convicts scene with Al & the hamburgers, the sobriety test, the
count tz' von telecky (?), the great scenes that take place in the barbershop
with all the Mayberry men gathered to just talk. One that I really enjoyed
was just Floyd sitting on the bench outside the barbershop reading the Mayberry
gazette to Opie & Goober. As I said I realize they can not be out there all
the time (Although I would love to see a show such as this.) and maybe it's to
hard for them, I know it must be alot of work and requires time & practice.
Perhaps its just me but I would really be interested to hear what some of the
others who attended Mayberry think. I certainly don't mean to offend anyone
who
works on the show, I can only imagine the amount of time and effort they put
into make this all take place, but if you could I would love to see a little
more of my favorite "Mayberry" in the shows.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 15:08:54 -0500
From: "Janet Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Whipping/spanking
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>>>I know Andy probably gave Opie a spanking, and that it was a very acceptable
>>>punishment back in the 60's, but it has always bothered me when he used the
>>>word whipping. It has such a negative connotation from when and where I grew
>>>up. It sounds so abusive. Is this a phrase that was used for a spanking in
>>>the southern regions of the US? We all know that Andy was such a loving
>>>father, it just seems so out of character. Just find it interesting that
>>>the writers chose to use that particular term.<<<
Ken, I don't believe that my own parents ever used the term "whipping," but I
think that term was pretty commonly used to mean spanking. And I don't think
it was used only in the south. I was raised in Indiana, but I have always
known that Andy was referring to spanking and not a literal whipping (i.e.
cruel, abusive, out of control). The word "spank" means to hit with the hand,
but I think the word "whip" is more like "paddle," in that something other than
the hand is used for striking (a switch cut from a green branch, a ruler, a
paddle, etc.), which seemed to be more common years ago than it is now.
My mom tells the story of when my uncle Merle was very small (in the 1920's)
and decided, in disobedience to his mother's instructions, to run off down the
lane and up the road to a neighboring farm. His mother (my grandma) was very
distraught over his disappearance until the neighbor phoned to say that my
uncle was at her house. My grandma had to walk over to retrieve him and, as
punishment, "she switched his little legs all the way home." She apparently
broke a tender twig off a nearby branch for this purpose. Now, my grandma was
a very gentle soul, so I'm sure the "whipping" my uncle Merle got was not
abusive! But using an object to strike with was just more commonly done in
those days.
I myself was on the receiving end of a yardstick a few times during my youth,
but it was always deserved and was by no means abusive. It was effective,
however, and taught me not to repeat my disobedience!
Thelma Lou
(Janet)
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 15:24:12 -0500
From: Richard_Veit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wall Calendars
To: TAGS Digest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Infamously, the 2004 ?Andy Griffith Show? wall calendar had all of its
photos flipped (reversed backwards), and that regrettable flaw was thought
to have been corrected in the 2005 edition. However, now that we have
reached the months in question, I see that two of the 2005 pictures (those
for September and October) are reversed as well. Barney?s and Andy?s badges
and shoulder patches are backwards. Has anyone else noticed this, or do I
possess a rare treasure, like Andy?s nickel with the buffalo facing the
wrong way?
Richard Veit
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 00:15:12 -0400
From: "GRITTON, JOE A \(SBC-OPS\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mayberry ahead of its time
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Just realized another Mayberry pioneer...something that happened in
Mayberry--later repeated in modern times.
Martha Stewart Living??? First there was Malcolm Meriwether "Gracious
Living"
Charming tables, tasty dishes, fun crafts, snappy dressing, he had it
all...a real bobybdazzler!
The Untrained Voice
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:39:01 -0400
From: Dave Millard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: " Reflections "
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In honor of TAGS 45th anniversary, I wrote the following:
" Reflections "
Way back in the 1960's.
The Andy Griffith Show was born,
set in a southern town,
deepest friendships there were formed.
It was the story of a sheriff,
his family & his friends,
the conflicts were so humorous,
and the love there had no end.
We met the town barber,
& the friendly town drunk,
the Fun Girls from Mt. Pilot,
and a goat who ate junk.
There was Gomer & Goober,
and crazy Ernest T,
Briscoe & his family,
and the schoolteacher was Miss C.
As we reflect on all the years gone by,
it gives our hearts such joy,
its almost like when we were kids,
and got a brand new toy.
So enjoy The Andy Griffith Show,
deep pleasure it will bring,
you'll be like Barney when he joined the choir,
it'll make you wanta sing!!!
Dave Millard/ 10/1/05
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:57:04 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: whipping
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Maybe it was referred to as "whipping" to a lot of folks here, but a true
southerner knows it as a "whupping." Worst part was, when mama decided you
needed a switchin' and made you go break a switch off the apple tree just
outside
the back door. Man, did you ever watch your step from then on!!
Opie was very fortunate...he was only threatened with one. I wasn't so
lucky!! But, in retrospect, I needed it!
Happy Mayberry Day and we finally have some rain!!
welford theCameraNut
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