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Today's Topics:

   1. whippings I have known (Marie)
   2. Whipping (Sam Paul)
   3. Re: spankings on TV ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   4. Blue Willow ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   5. SPANKING-WHIPPEN (LARRY GRANZOW)
   6. Thank the Lord for TAGS (johnna bixenman)
   7. whipping, spanking, beating, etc. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:32:47 -0500
From: Marie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: whippings I have known
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Not to make a whole moulage out of it, but mama didn't use apple tree or 
willow tree switches. We didn't have those trees. She used peach trees 
tho I like to say Rose bushes (full of thorns) to gain extra sympathy.

She also used a belt until she broke her daddy's old belt on my bro and 
he stood up and said "That didn't even hurt", walked away, and whatever 
it was he probably did it again. After that  it was the peach tree switches.

I don't envy her being a single mom. She says that when she lived in AZ 
with her in laws that my Grandma Margie used either end of the belt, 
buckle end or not on my Uncle Riley. She never said but I think she was 
relieved when daddy got in a fight with Grandpa and they came back to LA.

Marie



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 15:01:43 -0400
From: "Sam Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Whipping
To: <[email protected]>
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Hey Don,

I sure remember having to get my own switch.  One thing I learned early
on was not to get the little, skinny switches.  Those hurt the worst!!!
I finally started dragging back huge branches!  :)  Those hurt too, but
not nearly as bad as the skinny ones!  

Sam







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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 15:55:24 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: spankings on TV
To: [email protected]
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In a message dated 10/8/05 12:01:08 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Also - even though Andy talked about spanking Opie, I can't think of a  
> single time that he actually did it.
> 

No one ever showed spankings on TV much in those days because they were 
considered so unpleasant (and so violent).  If every episode of "Leave It to 
Beaver" ended with the Beav kicking up his legs while Ward wailed the tar out 
of 
him, it wouldn't have lasted a season, it would have been such a downer.  
Besides, not everyone believed in spanking (remember, Dr. Spock came out about 
that 
time) so rubbing it in everyone's face would've led to a tune-out factor.  

The only three spankings I remember right off hand on TV (I'm sure there may 
have been more) were Eddie getting slapped on his behind for leaning over a 
balcony on "The Courtship of Eddie's Father," Ted Baxter putting his adopted 
son 
over his lap and spanking him with his hand (Ted does all the crying) on "The 
Mary Tyler Moore Show," and and a brief shot of James belt-whipping a bully 
that Michael invited to spend the night with him on "Good Times" (then the door 
closed and we heard it, probably the roughest one I ever saw on TV without it 
being considered abuse but still very funny).   Eddie's was the only one 
considered dramatic, the other two were done clearly for laughs.

I'm glad we don't have such a mental image of Andy to remember, doing his own 
"dirty work," even though it may have been part of what made him such a good 
father.   Just mentioning it was enough, IMHO. 

Dixon


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 17:34:46 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Blue Willow
To: [email protected]
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There is an article in the paper her in Raleigh today about a lady in  
Garner, NC who inherited her mother's Blue Willow pattern china collection. If  
you 
are ready, this is BIG. Big Big BIG. Big ain't the word for it!! She has  
enough settings for........FIFTY TWO PEOPLE!
    That's right...over 1200 pieces of Blue Willow!!  Why I bet Aunt Bee 
didn't even have that much in her cabinet!
welford with the cameras


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 21:16:20 -0500
From: "LARRY GRANZOW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SPANKING-WHIPPEN
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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my dad used to whip with his belt.
you would hear him coming down the hallway snapen
the belt . AND THE WHIPPEN BEGAN-----OUCH!!!!

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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 01:42:49 -0500
From: "johnna bixenman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Thank the Lord for TAGS
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Just needin' to share something that's preyin' on my mind:  Oct. 8 my family 
buried my 66 year-old bachelor uncle (my dad's baby brother) who lived with us 
when I was little.  This fella really influenced me and will do so my entire 
life since I am right-handed but tie my shoes left-handed because Uncle taught 
me how to do that; he taught me how to ride a bike, and he was always there if 
I needed anything.  Anyway, he retired from truck driving for 36 years in 
August 2004 but was already ill.  The whole past year we thought he had cancer 
since his rapid weight loss symptoms masked cancer.  (He started out over 300 
pounds but last week was down to 150; he lost the weight in about 15 months.)  
We got the diagnosis Sept. 29: sarcoidosis.  This is a rare, very devastating 
disease; he passed from this life Oct. 5.  My point with this story is how 
wonderful TAGS is - we were visiting him in ICU last weekend when it was the 
TAGS marathon.  Some nurse had put football on the TV, but he frowned at that.  
I turned on TAGS, and it brought a smile to his weary face.  He then proceeded 
to talk to me about what a wonderful singer that old guy was (he meant Gomer).  
TAGS made my time in the hospital a lot more bearable.

So, even though my family is in extreme pain for losing this dear man, I have 
to believe he's better off with no more suffering.  Even though my life seems 
empty, my memories are nice and full...  Please pray for us in this difficult 
time.  

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:31:34 EDT
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: whipping, spanking, beating, etc.
To: [email protected]
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Hello all...
My mama could use any of the terms referring to being physically punished for 
a wrong-doing and they all meant the same. She was one of the most 
fair-minded, tolerant, and kind-hearted women I ever knew. There were 6 of us 
kids and 
in all our years of growing up, there was never an instance of abuse of any 
kind. When mama took the time out of her busy day to punish us, we more than 
deserved it.
In raising my own daughter, I didn't spare the rod. She is now 23, and has 
thanked me more than once for disciplining her as I did.
I think it's so sad that we live in a world where only the mention of 
punishing a child in a physical way causes an uproar. 
If my mama was still here to punish me when I messed up, I'd be a better 
person for it, even today.
Y'all have a good day!                             crystal m.


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