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Today's Topics:
1. Battle of Mayberry (John O. Dalke, GRI, e-PRO)
2. African Americans in TAGS eps (Robin)
3. Subject: RE: Real Drinks (Ron McLendon)
4. mayberry question... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
5. Stuff from the show (Rod Sadler)
6. Lady Singers ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
7. TV Dads (David and Angela Forbus)
8. TV Dads (K. Darden)
9. African-Americans in Mayberry (Ed)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 05:33:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: "John O. Dalke, GRI, e-PRO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Battle of Mayberry
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Didn't that fellow that played the Native American later bowl for Mt. Pilot
when Howard Sprague threw his 300 game? I've seen him in a lot of places, but
I can't remember his name.
John O. Dalke
Hillsboro KS
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Message: 2
From: "Robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: African Americans in TAGS eps
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:41:46 -0400
>>i've wondered about this before, and don't know if it's been discussed
here, but were there ever any African-Americans on TAGS? i do remember
a color episode in which a black man played a football coach, and i
have a vague and possibly incorrect memory of seeing a person of color
in one of the black and white (pun intended!) episodes.
can anyone clear this up..?
thx,
pb/<<
BARNEY GETS HIS MAN
In the episode where Barney 'accidentally' tackles Eddie Brook (escapee from
Atlanta), when the crowd circles them and Andy is questioning Barney to find
out what happened, there is an African American woman standing right behind
Barney, holding her pocket book and listening to the crowd confirm Barney
giving the guy a "flying tackle", etc.
I believe that same woman is in another ep, in the background, but I can't
remember which one right now....
Idelle (from MD)
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Message: 3
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Subject: RE: Real Drinks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: "Ron McLendon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 09:46:50 -0400 (EDT)
I've been a Cheerwine officianado most all my life. Growing up in the Triad
of NC, my tastebuds were right there in the heart of Cheerwine country. Since
moving to Nashville five years ago, and almost having to do without, the
territory has expanded. Last week whilst in a Kroger in Smyrna, I beheld the
familiar red and white logo right there on the soft drink shelf. My heart went
pitter-patter and my tastebuds started perking up. Now the way I see it, for
those of you in the Bluegrass state, you can go to eastern and western
Tennessee or Virginia for your fix. It's rather limited in middle Tennessee.
BUT...if you ever get to Greensboro, NC, you absolutely MUST go to Yum-Yum
Hotdogs over near the UNCG campus for a couple of dogs all the way and a
Cheerwine. As good as porkchop sandwich from Snappy Lunch! Now I'm hungry
again. That clock in my stomach is going tick-tock and I'm getting a sinkin'
spell. **Barn
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Message: 4
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mayberry question...
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:10:54 -0400
>but were there ever any African-Americans on TAGS?
Hey, pb!
I also recall seeing the black man coaching Opie's football team. That was
the episode where Opie wanted to play football and learn the piano at the same
time, but didn't have time for both. I do not recall the man's name, but he
was a former NFL player.
In the black and white episode, I did a see a black man in the background (no
lines spoken). I saw this episode maybe two or three months ago, and
commented to my wife that there was a black man in the background. These are
the only two episodes that I am aware of.
Has anyone else seen others?
Bob Kulp,
Huntersville, N.C.
"Citizen's arrest! Citizen's arrest!"
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 11:52:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rod Sadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stuff from the show
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Members,
Just a couple observations about trinkets left over from the show....
Our own Mike Creech traveled to LA and met with Andy's former manager Richard
O. Linke a few years back and was allowed to pin on one of the badges that Mr.
Linke still has from the show. Also, if I'm not mistaken, I've heard that Don
Knotts still has the old salt and pepper (you know, it hangs just right for the
dip). And just recently, a prop company in LA sold a prop gun that was
supposed to be Barney's ol' Roscoe. This was sold on e-bay and again, if I'm
not mistaken, the selling price ended up to be around $8,000.00. Don't quote
me on that though. I don't believe that there was anyway to substantiate
whether or not it actually was Barney's gun, but I sure wish I'd have had
$8,000.00.
Does anyone else know of any other items still around? I know there are prop
companies that sometimes sell things that were used on different TV shows. If
anyone is interested, you have to watch e-bay for those. But who know's
whether or not they were actually used on those shows.
Have a Mayberry day.
Rod Sadler
Mayberry Michigan Chapter, TAGSRWC
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Message: 6
From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 17:15:24 GMT
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Lady Singers
Don't forget the beautiful rendition of "Away In A Manger" with Ellie.
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After watching Andy and Peggy singing a duet last nite I began wondering how
many different ladies Andy sang with. Didn't he sing with his date, Mary? It
seems to me that Helen never sang. Anyone remember some others and did Helen
ever sing on the show?
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 05:26:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: David and Angela Forbus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TV Dads
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think they would have had a more realistic poll if they had asked you to vote
for 1 favorite dad, instead of the top 10. I'm sure Andy still would have won,
but my guy, Ward Cleaver would have been higher up than 8. Speaking of tv dads
(and a single parent, like Andy) what about Lucas McCain, of the Rifleman,
played by Chuck Conners? I always loved that show, and like TAGS, it espoused
true values by example, not by shoving them down our throats (like Cosby and
several others). Maybe it's because The Rifleman wasn't on TVLand. Those
re-runs are shown on Hallmark Channel....but The Simpsons and The Osbournes
aren't shown on TVLand, either......curious, curious........
Charlie Varney in SA
(Just for plain guzzlin')
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 00:13:19 -0500
From: "K. Darden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: TV Dads
I agree... but... just don't say anything about whether or not Homer Simpson is
a good TV Dad -- that would start a big moulage!
>A hearty congratulations to Sheriff Andy for being voted as TV's no. 1
>father. Some of their choices, however, had me scratching my head. I
>can't comment on Ozzy O because I have never seen his show, nor do I
>want to. Fred Sanford? He was always insulting Lamont calling him You
>big dummy! Or George Jefferson who couldn't even respect his son's wife
>enough to stop insulting her. Plus, I seem to remember an episode where
>Lionel was so busy partying that he had no time to study so George
>bought him a term paper.
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Message: 9
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From: "Ed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: African-Americans in Mayberry
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2004 22:53:41 -0400
<<I've wondered about this before, and don't know if it's been discussed
here, but were there ever any African-Americans on TAGS? >>
This question came up some time ago so I started tracking it. The
interesting thing is that some of the principles in the show have said that
there weren't any black people in Mayberry. There weren't any in jail, but
if you look around Mayberry you will seem members of the Mayberry black
community going about their daily business. I am currently setting up a set
of images showing exactly where and in what episode they appear.
Gomer says "Hey!"
Ed O'Dwyer
"History! That's My subject!" Chapter
Alpharetta, GA
--------------------------------
African-Americans in Mayberry.
The names of the episodes arent the official ones, but should jog the
memory of anyone who watches the show.
While Mayberry didnt feature any main black characters, there were Mayberry
citizens who were African-American. You just have to notice them going
about their daily business like all the other citizens in the background.
1) Gold truck episode:
a) Older male standing in front of courthouse door
b) Younger male in crowd
c) Middle aged female in crowd
2) Englishman (Malcolm) visits Mayberry
a) Female and male in group of people helping Malcolm when he crashed
into the truck and landed on the hood (lorry and landed on the bonnet).
3) Ernest T. Joins the Army
a) Male in line outside recruiting office and inside joining up.
4) Citizens arrest??
a) Female in crowd
5) Im gonna get you, Deputy.
a) Female in crowd
6) Newton Minnows Luck
a) When they catch up with Newton in front of Daves Coffee Shop a
young black male passes them on the street.
b) A woman is in the crowd during that same scene. She appears twice.
c) Black male is walking across in the background when Newton is
painting the front door of the courthouse.
7) Gomer Joins the Marines
a) some of new recruits are black
8) In Mayberry RFD, Sams neighbor is an African-American farmer. This
is a main town citizen speaking part.
9) Barney Runs for Sheriff
a) Two African-American males in the audience for the debate. One
closest to camera as it pans the group entering the hall. Another is on the
left rear part of the audience talking to the people around him.
10) Opie: football vs. practice piano episode.
a) Flip Conroy, a successful NFL player who moved back to Mayberry to
help his mother run her business. Main character in the story with a
speaking part.
11) Arrest of the Fun Girls
a) Male waaay in the background when Andy and Barney pull the girls
over for speeding..
12) Opie and the Carnival
a) Black male talking to white male in front of the hoochie koochie
stage.
b) When the shooting gallery guy calls Opie over from snack booth there
is an African-American male standing next to Opie buying popcorn.
c) When Opie loses all his money at the shooting gallery there is an
African American male losing all his money at the ring toss booth in the
background.
d) While Andy and Helen are observing the shooting gallery to see if it
is honest a black male walks past.
e) When Andy is shooting at the gallery there are two African-Americans
in the crowd watching him
f) When Opie is shooting with Goober there is an African-American male
talking to two other people in the background and another African-American
strolls by right behind Opie and Goober.
g) In the last scene where Opie and Goober are happy because Opie won,
there is an African-American male in the background trying his luck at the
next booth.
13) Ellie Comes to town
a) Opening scene: American-American male crosses street in the
background.
14) Mayberry Band
a) Lady clapping on sidewalk each time band marches by.
b) Male wearing apron (outside Foleys Market?) as band goes around the
corner.
15) Barney returns to Mayberry (Tina Andrews)
a) Two black males in the crowd welcoming the train.
16) The whos messing up the bulletin board /Bob Rogers from the State
Attorneys office episode.
a) Barney and Andy are in the squad car talking about the stop sign
hanging loose and in the background a black male walks by.
b) Barney (selling vacuum cleaners) meets Andy talking to a lady on the
corner. There is a black male walking away in the background for about a
second.
c) Same scene but different angle, two black males pass each other in
the background.
d) Last scene when Barney writes Bob Rogers a ticket there is a black
male walking by just before Bob gets to his car.
17) Episode with Barney and the Southern Belle who tricks him into
getting engaged.
a) Black man crossing the street in the background as Barney talks to
Thelma Lou at the beginning.
b) Black woman crosses the street and walks by Foleys Market in the
background as Barney tells the Southern Belle she is parked illegally.
c) Black man and black woman standing in front of the Post Office when
Barney escorts S. B. there and walks inside.
18) Floyd & the bookie barber
a) Barney, Andy & Floyd are outside the barber shop talking about the
new customers. In the shot of just Andy and Barney with the street in the
background a black male walks in front of the cafi from left to right behind
Andy.
b) Andy and Barney pull up in the squad car in front of the courthouse.
A black male wearing a white hat is across the street walking from right to
left. (This same shot was used as the opening of Otis the Deputy.)
c) Continuation of that scene. Andy points out that the same customers
are back at Floyds. In the background between Andy and Barney a black lady
walks from left to right.
d) At the end of the compeltion statement by Barney a flack male
walks from left to right in the background. (probably the same guy as in
b)
e) After Barney gets into a tussle with the bookies, the next scene is
Andy pulling up in the patrol car. In the foreground there is a black lady
carry a large handbag who is walking in the street alongside the driver side
and then crosses behind the car from right to left.
f) In the last outside scene Barney and Andy are going into Floyds.
There are lots of people walking in the background. The black man in the
white hat the last pedestrian to be seen on the right side of the screen in
the background.
19) Seth Taylor statue Dedication
a) When aunt Bee is giving her speech there are several blacks in the crowd.
20) Andys Laundromat
a) While Andy is giving a parking ticket to one of his laundry
customers, a black male walks by.
b) As the state bureau investigator and trooper get out of the car in
front of the court house, a black male walks by the front of the court
house.
The list keeps growing as my "trained noticer" skills improve.
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