Sherry,

You're right that it does look different in NN 4.x which I didn't check
in since I absolutely hate that browser and will be glad when it is no
longer even an after though to web design.

I did check it in NN 6.2 & Mozilla which are much more standards
compliant. To fix what I originally did so it will appear more like
other browsers in NN 4.x. I did the following

Okay, I put the vertical-align in both the tr & td definition to have it
top align. Compliant browsers use the tr tag while NN 4 uses the td tag.
It appears that NN 'td' inheritance bug also effects text color by
adding it to the td tag description text is now green. Personally I
think it is easier to read when it is black but it isn't my site.

You can see the revised version at
http://wiserways.net/sherry/index1.htm. As you can tell from the
paragraph above the problems were pretty easy to fix. There is a slight
issue with 2 of the pictures but it appears in all browsers and it could
probably be fixed by playing with margins and/or padding.

I took out the left justified links because they didn't work correctly
in IE which is the majority browser out there and to fix it would have
required a lot of messing with code to find out which nesting error was
causing the problem. Besides they are just as accessible in the center
and look like they belong there instead of being an after though. 

Btw, the ../ are a relative path information and when you remove them
then the browser is looking in the wrong location for files. ../ takes
it up one level while ../images takes it up one level then over to the
image folder if that makes any sense. 

You might try the HTML Writer's Guild for some online classes at fairly
reasonable prices. They have a intro to Dreamweaver's class starting
this week (join if you decide to take a class the difference in class
price more than makes up for the membership fee).

Cheryl D. Wise
WiserWays
Office: 713.353.0139
Mobile: 713.412.0406
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-----Original Message-----
From: sherry young 

Cheryl,

Wow. I'm amazed. The text links at the bottom of the page are left
justified on all the other pages. I put them in for accessibility
reasons, per recommendations gleaned on this list, and also because I
believe you should be able to go to any page on a site from any other
page on a site. One of our board members was complaining this week
because they're ugly. I was under the impression the simpler the better
for accessibility reasons so I left them plain vanilla ugly font.

Sigh. I guess it's time for me to learn about css. I didn't think adding
pix would be such a big deal, frankly. If I had, I probably would have
waited even longer to open yet another can of worms.

Your revised page, on Netscape 4.X, has black fonts and looks quite a
lot different than the IE version. The Heather and Steve pix, for
example, still aren't top justified (if that's the correct term) with
the text to their right. The Heather text *is* to the right of the pic,
however, which is what I was aiming for.

I'm such a dumb bunny I forgot to look at the page I did in IE
yesterday. To be honest, I never even think of IE. I never use it
myself, we use Netscape 4.X in the office, etc. I live in a Netscape
world, one that's crumbling to be sure since the corporate takeover.
I'll probably switch to Opera in the future. I simply can't bring myself
to use IE.

Anyway, the page as I did it doesn't really look all that bad. Except
for the big, fat ugly mess of snarled links at the bottom of the page.
What the hell causes that??? If I could fix that, I'd just leave the
damned thing alone, put it up and tell my boss it reads fine on IE and I
need some training.

Right now, what I'm doing is copying the code from a page that works and
from the page that doesn't into Notebook and comparing them line by
line, in hopes of finding out why those bottom text links are mooshed
over to the left. Of all the pages I have available to me, that gives
the best mix of works/doesn't work without getting into a whole new area
(CSS) which would probably, knowing me, offer new ways of hanging
myself.
hey're where they are or what's missing or extra. There's the rub.

I have an oddity on the page that doesn't work, also. Most of the href
have "../ in them as in "../image instead of "image which is what's on
the page that doesn't have the bottom text links messed up. When I take
out the ../ I get a grey broken image icon (which is quite spectacular
when you get to the background image command. Does anyone have a clue
why this would be? Again, thank god for Undo. I worship the God of Undo.


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