Sherry, When I originally looked through your code it was full of empty font tags, font tags inside of font tags that had no "content" in-between the tags and were redundant. That alone is one good reason for learning CSS. I set fonts once in css then forget about it. If I want a different font for something, say headers I put that in the tags I want it to apply to or if I only want it to apply sometimes in a custom class. That's what I did with the td.inside tag. I wanted extra spacing for nested tables but only for some cells in that table. You may notice that I only have 2 tables instead of the multiple nesting you used. Makes it easier to find problem tags.
I'd argue that NN 4.x is "broke". It is the least standards compliant browser around. Even IE 4 is better when it comes to web standards. That is why I hate it. Heck, I'd rather someone visit with Mosaic 2.0 than NN 4.08. BTW, you may notice that I used standard markup for changing font sizes such as <h1> for the main title, <h3> for the section titles. I did that for accessibility reason as well as to create cleaner code. You may want to take a look at a few HTML tutorials to get a feel for when you should use what tag. Just doing that will eliminate many of those font tags. Instead of the long font description you had for the page title all you really need is <h1>. Yes, you can change the display of the code via css if you want but even if you don't the defaults of the browser's dom (document object model) will cause it to be displayed in large bold text. While I haven't taken any of the WYSIWYG editor specific classes or basic html I have taken some asp, css, accessibility, Flash & Illustrator classes with HWG. In fact I just finished my Adobe Illustrator class. Not that I claim to be an artist but my final project is at http://wiserways.net/hwg/di/week6.htm. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: sherry young . Cheryl, I always have a had time grasping the concept of <td> and get confused easily by it. One thing I'm realizing is how rusty I am with all this. I know web designers hate NN 4.X but a lot of users really like it still. Oh hell, I think some of us just don't like change. I see a browser as a tool and if it ain't broke I don't have any inclination to fix it. Appallingly, sometimes I go to pages where the stuff is all over the place and I just don't care. I now know it's because the page wasn't designed for my browser but as long as I can find the information in the text somewhere on the page I really don't care what the page looks like. But I'm a text-oriented research person and it's not surprising it's taken me this long to toss some pix onto the site and then only after some judicious carping from a board member. It's easy for the web site to get lost in the demands of my overall job. The missing </td> tags created most of the havoc on that page. It amazed me to put it in andt hen watch the picture or text move right to where I wanted it. Some of it is still kind of butt ugly with too much white space but I'm not going to fuss with that now. I miss the days of literal cut and paste (sticky wax) of paste up and layout for offset printing. I love many aspects of digital life but could live without others. I read your style directions and noticed you define the font size in ems. Just once per page, I notice. That's nice. I agree the black on white is easier to read. My agency wants to keep to the dark green and white, though. I think we're going to revisit the whole site soon and I can do a couple of example pages with black text and see what the members think. When I first put the site up we set up a laptop in the board room and only one or two people looked at it. I left justified the bottom links within their cell of the table (uh, once I managed to find it). That justification's a leftover from desktop publishing, it's what you'd do in a newsletter so it looks "out there in space" to me whenever I center it. I'd love to take a course in basic principles of design soon. I only have ONE folder for images. I put the text of the test page into a separate folder marked "test" but didn't do anything special to tell the page where to find the images. I was happy it found them by itself. The page is now on the server out of the "test" folder and with all its mates in the main site. The images continue in their usual folder. Though it looks messy to have those ../s in the code, it seems to work that way; but when I took the ../ out of the code when the page was still in the "test" folder it didn't work at all. At least now I'll know what those ../s are next time I see them. I joined the HTML Writer's Guild when it first started, tried to anyway, but never heard back from them. I'll have to join again. I should find a DW user's group also. Soon. ____ � The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM � ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:wdvltalk-join@;lists.wdvl.com Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
