Hi Jac,

I agree 100% with Rudy.  Nothing in necessary to get you a top placement
other than good, smart coding.  However, there are resources I have used
from time to time to as helps:

http://www.webposition.com/ (helps with your keywords and lets you know
where you are placed on certain search engines and if you dropped or
gained a position)

Then there are various free webpages out there that will check your page
to see if it is optimized:

http://www.northernwebs.com/set/setsimjr.html
http://www.wordtracker.com/
http://www.scrubtheweb.com/abs/meta-check.html
http://www.keywordcount.com/


If you are really wanting to spend money on including your website with
search engines, I would recommend http://inktomi.com/ 

A word with you, Rudy.  I would suggest that you not ignore Altavista
and Yahoo.  They are heavy hitting search engines as well.

Am I supposed to be off today?  :)

HTH,
Will


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From: rudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:23 PM
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> ...  or could someone recommend a better option

first of all, if they contacted you unsolicited, it's spam

don't EVER respond to spammers, and above all, NEVER EVER 
buy  whatever they're selling


now, moving on to the question of search engine inclusion

you.  don't.  need.  it.


it's really simple to get a good ranking in search engines

there are three main steps

1. have good content
2. get reputable sites to link to you
3. see step 1


i've got fairly decent rankings for my own site in google and yahoo
(e.g. sql consultant, doomsday algorithm)

and the other search engines i frankly don't care about

if you have good content, related either to database
or web development, let me know, and i'll link to you

you do not need to pay for inclusion

and you do not need to have some company do it for you

you don't even need to submit your url to any search engines

let them find you




rudy

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