drew,

I am starting to understand classes so this makes sense to me.   In
fact I am using it for another Opera problem, border colour round
tables.   I am in a hurry now to finish what has been a very long job
(the pages and site re-organistation are the least part of that, so
you can imagine what the content creation has been like for me!!).
But the next big site change is going to be as up to date as possible.

The hr point is interesting.    The various changes in css and html
are no doubt necessary and sensible, but it seems to increase the gap
in getting pages that can be compliant with all browsers and their
different releases.   I hear you cry:   'It ainn't going to get
better!'.

Joseph


> Another alternative is to simply replace the hr with a p tag and a
class
> like .lne{border-top:1px solid #ff0000;}. This too employs a block
level
> element. I've heard arguments that this is preferable to using hr.
>
> drew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 7:30 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: red line in Opera
>
>
> Jon, Matt, John and David,
>
> Thank you all for your advice.
>
> 'hr' didn't do it;  closing ';' didn't do it; lower-casing the hex
> didn't do it. ---
>
> Jon, your piece of code below *did* do it.     Then I took a step
too
> far!   I realised the table borders were coming up grey instead of
> gold and I tried to adapt the code for tables.
>
> In IE I got ALL the boxes outlined (of course, would have to make a
> 'class' of it);  in Opera it turned into a jumble - though the
visible
> lines of boxes were the colour I specified!
>
> Of course if you had an idea for that.....
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Joseph
>
> > Hi Joseph,
> >
> > > The <hr> red lines in my site design work rather well.   So it
is
> a
> > > pity Opera renders them as grey.   Is there any way to get Opera
> to
> > > fall in line?   I am using CSS for the colour.
> >
> > This is down to a difference of opinion between IE and
> Opera/Mozilla.
> >
> > IE reckons that an <hr> is just a line, and uses the "color"
> definition to
> > style it. Opera and Mozilla think that an <hr> is a box with
nothing
> in it
> > (somewhat like a <div> with no content), and look for the
> "border-color"
> > definition.
> >
> > Point your browsers at www.laughing-buddha.net/tmp/hr.html and
> you'll see
> > the difference.
> >
> > Assuming you want a 2 pixel high red <hr>, try this:
> >
> > hr {
> >  height : 2px;
> >  border-width : 2px 0px 0px 0px;
> >  border-style : solid;
> >  border-color : #F00;
> >  color : #F00;
> > }
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jon
> >
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