I'm still a bit groggy from lettting surgeons near, and had
assumed this problem would get one eureka or another. I too
have suddenly acquired the unwanted log in screen. It appeared
after allowing Xp updates and i had assumed it was the usual
'Bill knows best' virtual Nanny State at work.
Since I have no user accounts set up (I have just 'the owner'
with no log in need) I simply face a click if (when) I am away
for more than ten minutes or so. That's irritating enough...
Joseph
Joseph Harris
Humor, Toilet, Other Things - the blog by Chacha Joe
http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com/Toilet_Humour/blog
The Toilet eBook: When Nature Calls - Looperman is Ready
http://www.Looperman-is-ready.com
From: "Peter MacGregor"
I think this whole thread just serves to
emphasise that "ease of use" or "plug and play"
are still figments of the imagination of the top guns in the
computer industry.
I too struggle time and again with trying to sort
out the supposedly simplest things. I've been
around personal computers since the Apple IIe and
before that was using mini and mainframe
machines. Problem was I was always a user so had
a back-up team to sort the problems. Being
interested in technology I always asked questions
and learnt a lot, but was never sent by an
employer on any sort of training course. It's
been listening and reading the manuals (Oh
shame!! LOL) that has taught me most. The result
has been that I do know a fair amount - more than
many of my peers and as a result they seem to
think I'm some sort of guru. That leads to all
sorts of issues in terms of people impinging on
my time for help with the most mundane things.
Fortunately I have a son who is know an IT
Manager for a largish firm in London using
multi-networks of PCs so he can help and if he's
not available (he travels sometimes to branch
offices) I have my good friends here on this
forum which I have honestly found to be more sue
than any of the fora dedicated to specific programs or systems.
Right now I'm struggling with trying to figure
out why our parish office can't download emails
from the email address related to their web site.
I can get them if I set up my email - but they
aren't for me and some are confidential. I've
spent most of this week messing with this problem
on and off and am tearing my hair our. Their
system keeps defaulting to their ISP email
details and won't hold those for the web! I've
scanned their machine for viruses, updated their
ant-virus and firewall (and now set the machine
to do it automatically, but as they are on a
dial-up that is a problem at times) but nothing
so far has worked. This is a prize example of
what should be so simple and straightforward but is in fact a
nightmare.
Neither their ISP nor the web service host has a
telephone help line so we are waiting around for
email support all the time. Whatever about Deb's
comment about laws against software suppliers
having their products do things without warning,
I firmly believe that any company that provides
any service that is delivered over the telephone
system should have people on the end of the phone
to provide help on a one to one basis. Not
answering machines, not multi-press options on
the phone pad - a real live human being that
knows the system inside out and can talk you through the problems
and options.
Hey Ho! Back to hair tearing!
Cheers
Peter MacGregor
At 07:52 20/10/2006, you wrote:
At 01:16 AM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
I apologise sincerely for any offence if you thought I was
being sarcastic at you! I should have said "type *just* the
right question into Google". You have to have a fairly twisted
mind to produce the answer you want at the first, or even
fifty-first, attempt. None of the 300-plus computer users that
I support can do this, or I'd be out of a job. Also when I
said 'to save you the trouble' that's exactly what I meant, it
would have been quite rude of me to just leave it at steps 1-3
when I had the answer on my screen. But if I had just posted
the answer without the method, perhaps I would have been posing
as some kind of super guru instead of just someone who used
Google to get the answer... modesty and helpfulness, see, not
bitterness and cheap shots at all.... :-)
Thanks, Bj. You are correct in that you really do have to twist
your mind to find what you need sometimes. I thought I was
searching on the right words but as you can see, I was wrong. I
also assumed just searching in the WinXP help files on my own
computer would yield me the answer - bzzzt - wrong answer, Deb!
I have been in tech support for about twenty years but frankly,
skill, knowledge, experience and training are only useful in
about 5% of situations. Mainly I earn my living by switching
equipment off and back on again, and when that occasionally
fails, typing *just* the right question into Google / looking
in *just* the right place in the manual or help file... it's a
rare gift, I mean a *rare* gift.
Erm, also, I must admit finding this one probably was more like
the fifty-first attempt, the first time I had to look for it...
I do appreciate the trouble you went to to find it for me.
I'm not going to mess w/this anymore. I just don't have the
time and after being totally locked out after my attempts - I'm
now more on the paranoid side of terrified of this happening
again. It would have been nice had the program that installed
this given me the option of setting it up this way - I'd have
surely checked NO! It has to be either the printer or the Wacom
Pen Tab as this all happened after that. I do remember
something about MSN Messenger or ??? coming up but for the life
of me can't remember what it was now. I was just dumbfounded to
have installed all of this, gone to bed, got up - rebooted and
suddenly there is was w/no warning. There oughta be a law
against software doing this but then I would imagine they'd
listen about as well as the spammers listen to the laws about
spamming and to the people who don't want it.
Deb
Bj
----- Original Message ----- From: "PBC Web Design"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 2:48 AM
Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] OT: ridding myself of the Windows
Welcome screen
At 05:17 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
The answer takes a bit of finding, you have to type just the
right question into Google.
Apparently, this was the problem. I had not worded my
searches correctly in the WinXP help files to find what you
did. Nothing I found in the help files had anything like
this. I neglected to mention that I did try the WinXP help
files before posting. I did not however, try Google. Thank
you. I will try this.
:: Deb | PBC Web Design
:: http://www.PBCWebDesign.com
____ . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . ____
To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or
use the web interface
http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/
Send Your Posts To: [email protected]
To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web
interface:
http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk
________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________
You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at:
Jupitermedia Corp.
Attn: Discussion List Management
475 Park Avenue South
New York, NY 10016
Please include the email address which you have been contacted
with.
____ . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . ____
To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To:
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or
use the web interface
http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/
Send Your Posts To: [email protected]
To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web
interface:
http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk
________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________
You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: unknown lmsubst tag
argument: ''
To unsubscribe send a blank email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at:
Jupitermedia Corp.
Attn: Discussion List Management
475 Park Avenue South
New York, NY 10016
Please include the email address which you have been contacted
with.
--
Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/471 - Release Date:
10/10/2006
____ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM ____
To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or
use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/
Send Your Posts To: [email protected]
To change subscription settings, add a password or view the web interface:
http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk
________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________
You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [email protected]
To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at:
Jupitermedia Corp.
Attn: Discussion List Management
475 Park Avenue South
New York, NY 10016
Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
