On 28 Sep 98, franko wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something, but if you're redrawing both main and nav
> frames each time, why have frames at all?
> 

Mm.  You may have missed my subsequent post to Barry, in which I asked 
the same generic question: "Why use frames at all??" <g>

As I noted in that post I don't like frames generally, for all the usual 
reasons: they defy the entire "one URL = one page of information" model 
of the Web, and in turn screw up bookmarking and Back/Forward 
navigation.

As I also noted, frames are most useful when you need to keep fixed 
navigation onscreen in one frame with lengthy documents in another, such 
as for technical documemtation.  And in this context, the approach I 
outlined works quite well.  Yes, the navigation frame refreshes each time 
you move to a "new page" (frameset), but it *does* remain in a constant 
position onscreen.  And the reload time is almost imperceptible to the 
user, if he notices at all.  But he can now bookmark pages, reference them 
properly in e-mail to others, and use Back/Forward buttons reliably.

Try it sometime.  It does work, within the numerous limitations of how 
Netscape ill-advisedly implemented <frame> in the first place.  As 
generation 4.x browsers become more common, I expect that resourceful 
use of CSS/DHTML will in time come to replace the kludgy and hapless 
<frame> tag.

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