> > Sorry, but that's just not true.  This isn't like a chess game,
> > a mano-a-mano contest of raw brainpower.  Security holes are hidden by
> > the sheer size and complexity of a system.

> the covert systems you've talked about are all technically possible,
> certainly, but they add complexity.   that's one of the fundamental
> tradeoffs of software development:  additional features mean
> additional complexity.

    As I recall, the ATT version of UNIX, at one point, had a built-in
back door generator put there by one of the guys who designed it.  It was
built into the assembly/compilation system to insure that any rebuild on
any machine would generate a back door for the author.

     When ATT discovered it during a major revision, they grilled the
author for about two weeks behind closed doors.  However, he wasn't, how
should I put it, low enough on the totem pole to easily fire, nor
inconsequential enough in the UNIX community to fire without a MAJOR black
eye for ATT. 

> beat a mongolian horde.   technically, the mongols won, though.. at
> least, their invasion was successful.   there just weren't enough of
> them to establish a significant lasting change in the local culture,
> and they ended up being assimilated within a few generations.

    Oh?  I think there were some major changes from that region PRIOR to
building The Great Wall.  I seem to recall something about their emperors
having substantial Mongol blood.  The early comers just wanted to keep
the late comers away from a good thing.  That's about par for the course,
no matter where you go. (But I could be wrong about the timing of that.)

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