On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:39:44 -0500
"Bill Kearney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Former versions of Cyrus authed via username w/o any domain part, i.e.
> > specific for a particular domain and explicitly did NOT support virtual
> > hosting, nor have any plans to do so.  At least according to the docs
> > of the day.  I guess they succumbed to pressure though since current
> > versions do support virtual domains...  It just doesn't seem to work
> > well w/current incantation of web-cyradm.
> 
> Bingo!  That explains why web-cyradm does it that way.
> 
> Ok, so has anyone worked up patches or a fork of web-cyradm that makes use
> of cyrus' present ability to handle virtual accounts?  It seems like it'd be
> a better solution all-round to use native virtual support, if only for the
> flexibily of using [EMAIL PROTECTED] logins.

Yes- See the reply from "Cheeto".  Try his patches.
 
> > One of the joys of Cyrus.  Once you get it all working though it
> > pretty much rocks;)  FWIW- I never was able to get [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > working.
> 
> Well, now that I grasp the situation with web-cyradm's "old style" versus
> cyrus' direct virtual support I can approach it from another angle.
> 
> > You can still use auxprop but in my experience I need to either:
> > 1) domain as prefix, e.g. username=mydom0001 thru mydom9999
> > 2) username-user.mydom.tld
> >
> > It's kind of a six of one, half dozen of the other wh/is better.
> > Lately I've favored #2.
> 
> Yes, that's what I gathered as well.
> 
> This is all telling me that given cyrus as it stands today, web-cyradm does
> not provide an effective fit.  Ugh, I wish this had been clearer two weeks
> ago.

It's still provides a perfectly workable solution.  Just not completely
up to date w/latest Cyrus.  The issues are pretty minor inconvenience
for end users.  Once you set up an mua you rarely need to reconfigure
it again.  Thus the only people who really need to grasp the "username !
= email address" concept are webmail users.  And Ilohamail provides
nice workaround for that.

Your alternatives are, imho, limited:

1) Courier-  don't recommend you go there.

2) Dovecot- recommend you take a look if Cyrus is not getting you what
you need.  Fast performance but less features and less mature IMAP
support.  To be expected from younger project.  Development seems to be
moving forward at steady pace.  I've also had a few exchanges w/lead
developer (same guy who brought us Irssi) and he's pretty responsive.
Or at least he was a year or two back...

There was another web front end- think it was Postmail, or something
like that, originally developed for Courier but patches avail for
Cyrus.  I took a look at it a while back to see what the "competition"
was and concluded that web-cyradm was a better fit for me.

Your point is well taken, however, web-cyradm needs updating.  Original
author is busy w/o other things and it's not too pressing an issue
since web-cyradm does get the job done in it's present incantation.

Good luck;-)

-- 
Best regards,

Ken Gunderson

Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon?

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