I like the idea of a collaborative environment but admin was not designed for that. It was designed to be easy to use. I would like to see a modified admin target to professionals that allows advanced features including:
- version control of apps - editing of all files including modules - restarting of the web server - system file configuration and service starting/stoping - etc. It is not difficult to write. If anybody can take a crack at that I will post it. Massimo On Oct 8, 2:32 pm, "Steve Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is an interesting discussion. > > The theme was also talked about in the thread about the Amy editor. > > I am really interested in the concept of collaborative programming. Using a > local machine only for development doesn't really work well for this > concept. > > I think segregating the code and databases into a setup of PRODUCTION, > TRAINING and TESTING could allow various options in the Admin interface to > be turned on or off. > For example in PRODUCTION the table editing could be usefull if you simply > need to fix a data issue for a user. > > However making a change to a controller in a production env is NOT a good > idea at all. No matter how good your programming skills bugs still get in. > And caching is normally in full swing on a production setup. > > I am really a newbie to web2py but i would find it immensely helpful if I > could share a controller I am working with with Yarko or Massimo and they > could simply type in the fixes and show me as they type how I should be > coding a section. (this is what amy intends doing) > > I have rambled here a lot but I think Massimo needs feedback on the > development env direction. > > PS. The ability to create autocompletions or shortcodes (ie SF changes to > SQLFIELD) in your code and the ability for the editor to show calltips (with > syntax) and options for parameters would immensely speed up development and > usage of powerful features we don't know about initially. > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Timothy Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I understand the inconsistent behavior of not being able to edit modules > > via admin. Making changes to module that won't be reflected until something > > outside of the admin interface happens encourages bad programming practice. > > > I can see the web2py newbies screaming now..."I hit submit, why aren't you > > changing!?!?" > > > ...meanwhile on the mailing list... > > > From: Joe Newbie > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Module editing broken > > > Whenever I submit changes to a module, it doesn't take effect. Why? > > > ...by the 16th of such emails a conflict ensued that engulfed the web2py > > community... > > > Nah, let's just stay away from that one. > > > -tim > > > Flamer Disclaimer: By "newbie" I mean someone who does not understand or is > > not familiar with web2py. By no means am I implying that anyone would be > > incapable of understanding such concepts. > > > mdipierro wrote: > > > The problem is that I do not want to clutter the admin interface > > moreover even if you could edit modules via admin you should still > > restart web2py from the shell to reload the modules. If you are so > > advanced to edit modules I think you should use a shell editor. > > > Anyway, I am not saying no. Just waiting for more opinions on this > > matter. > > > On Oct 8, 10:36 am, seeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Disregarding the location from which Admin is accessed, it still seems > > strange to me that I am able to conveniently edit virtually my entire > > Web2Py app via admin, but then have to open my modules in an external > > editor. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
