Let's get to work! Massimo
On Oct 9, 8:42 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is web2py is the first approach to The collaborative development > directly via online interface ? > > What i want to see is , to combine Trac with Web2py Admin . Which we > can have full fledge Online Collab development environment(SVN > support , Project management , Collaborative Development, Testing , > Milestones , Deployment) . If that approach have not tried in any > other development environment , This will be greatest thing happen to > Collaborative Development of software. > > On 10/9/08, mdipierro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I like the idea of a collaborative environment but admin was not > > designed for that. It was designed to be easy to use. > > I would like to see a modified admin target to professionals that > > allows advanced features including: > > > - version control of apps > > - editing of all files including modules > > - restarting of the web server > > - system file configuration and service starting/stoping > > - etc. > > > It is not difficult to write. If anybody can take a crack at that I > > will post it. > > > Massimo > > > On Oct 8, 2:32 pm, "Steve Shepherd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This is an interesting discussion. > > >> The theme was also talked about in the thread about the Amy editor. > > >> I am really interested in the concept of collaborative programming. Using > >> a > >> local machine only for development doesn't really work well for this > >> concept. > > >> I think segregating the code and databases into a setup of PRODUCTION, > >> TRAINING and TESTING could allow various options in the Admin interface to > >> be turned on or off. > >> For example in PRODUCTION the table editing could be usefull if you simply > >> need to fix a data issue for a user. > > >> However making a change to a controller in a production env is NOT a good > >> idea at all. No matter how good your programming skills bugs still get in. > >> And caching is normally in full swing on a production setup. > > >> I am really a newbie to web2py but i would find it immensely helpful if I > >> could share a controller I am working with with Yarko or Massimo and they > >> could simply type in the fixes and show me as they type how I should be > >> coding a section. (this is what amy intends doing) > > >> I have rambled here a lot but I think Massimo needs feedback on the > >> development env direction. > > >> PS. The ability to create autocompletions or shortcodes (ie SF changes to > >> SQLFIELD) in your code and the ability for the editor to show calltips > >> (with > >> syntax) and options for parameters would immensely speed up development > >> and > >> usage of powerful features we don't know about initially. > > >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:33 AM, Timothy Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> wrote: > >> > I understand the inconsistent behavior of not being able to edit > >> > modules > >> > via admin. Making changes to module that won't be reflected until > >> > something > >> > outside of the admin interface happens encourages bad programming > >> > practice. > > >> > I can see the web2py newbies screaming now..."I hit submit, why aren't > >> > you > >> > changing!?!?" > > >> > ...meanwhile on the mailing list... > > >> > From: Joe Newbie > >> > To: [email protected] > >> > Subject: Module editing broken > > >> > Whenever I submit changes to a module, it doesn't take effect. Why? > > >> > ...by the 16th of such emails a conflict ensued that engulfed the web2py > >> > community... > > >> > Nah, let's just stay away from that one. > > >> > -tim > > >> > Flamer Disclaimer: By "newbie" I mean someone who does not understand or > >> > is > >> > not familiar with web2py. By no means am I implying that anyone would > >> > be > >> > incapable of understanding such concepts. > > >> > mdipierro wrote: > > >> > The problem is that I do not want to clutter the admin interface > >> > moreover even if you could edit modules via admin you should still > >> > restart web2py from the shell to reload the modules. If you are so > >> > advanced to edit modules I think you should use a shell editor. > > >> > Anyway, I am not saying no. Just waiting for more opinions on this > >> > matter. > > >> > On Oct 8, 10:36 am, seeker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > Disregarding the location from which Admin is accessed, it still seems > >> > strange to me that I am able to conveniently edit virtually my entire > >> > Web2Py app via admin, but then have to open my modules in an external > >> > editor. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/web2py?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
