That sounds great!  Keep all that is great about Web2py--especially 
templates and helpers!--and silence the blathering, unhelpful critics.

On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 8:28:31 AM UTC-8, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> Hello user,
>
> The purpose of that thread is to discuss where web2py should got in the 
> future. For now we refer to that as web3py but noting is settled, not even 
> the name.
> There is a prototype containing some of my ideas for web3py.
>
> My ideas are:
> 1) keep dal, templates, and validators
> 2) rewrite source code for forms and helpers (they would work more or less 
> the same but simpler APIs, now they have too many options)
> 3) simplify internal logic (import instead of exec, better use of wsgi 
> middleware, everything lazy for speed)
> 4) support for python 3.3
> 5) a compatibility layer that will allow running legacy web2py apps when 
> running web3py in python 2.7. 
>
> This means we will keep backward compatibility for legacy apps but new app 
> will slightly different APIs.
> Anyway this is a proposal.  people can looks at the prototype. It is 20x 
> faster on hello world apps.
>
> I think for now this discussion belongs to web2py-developers and everybody 
> is welcome to join.
> When the proposal is more concrete we can move some of the discussion here.
>
> Massimo
>
>
> On Monday, 26 November 2012 22:39:06 UTC-6, User wrote:
>>
>> I noticed a thread over in web2py-developers web3py - 
>> important!<https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/web2py-developers/RCeiRd3Rzs0>
>>  which 
>> was exciting to read.  I've flirted with web2py and there's a lot that I 
>> like about it.  For some reason I find web2py exciting whereas django 
>> doesn't provide that.  I've used Yii on the php side which is great 
>> framework as far as php goes and asp.net mvc which is great as well.  
>> I'd love to work with python but the main thing making me hesitate with 
>> web2py is critical mass.  
>>  
>> It seems like it wouldn't be hard for web2py to really dominate the 
>> python web framework space if some of the core criticisms were addressed.  
>> I'm not fully up to speed on what they are but I usually hear about unit 
>> testing and global variables.  It feels like there is a roadblock 
>> preventing the project from skyrocketing.  Python needs a rails.  I 
>> understand that the design decisions are by choice with pros and cons.
>>  
>> My questions are:
>> 1. Will web3py likely address these often repeated core criticisms? (I 
>> saw point 5 from the thread linked to above: "5) No more global 
>> environment. Apps will do "from web3py import *" (see below)")
>> 2. The developer thread is over in the developers section.  Will you have 
>> a more open forum for users (as opposed to developers) to have input on 
>> web3py?
>>  
>>  
>>
>

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