The idea is that clients contact the members directly so I may not
always know what is going on but I will report things that I know.

Massimo

On Nov 14, 3:56 pm, Anthony <[email protected]> wrote:
> What a great idea! I don't yet have the skills to join, but for now
> e4s will certainly have my moral support (maybe some casual
> proofreading, too ;-).
>
> For those of us not directly involved in e4s, I think it would still
> be interesting to hear what's going on from time to time, so hopefully
> there will be some occassional updates posted on the web2py list.
>
> I like the idea of e4s eventually replacing the web2py.com Support
> page. I think something like that would really set web2py apart (as if
> it's not already distinctive enough).
>
> OK, as promised, here's some proofreading -- on the Guidelines page,
> "Tehcnologies" should be "Technologies" in "Use Industry Standard
> Tehcnologies".
>
> Godspeed.
>
> Anthony
>
> On Nov 11, 9:52 am, mdipierro <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This is important. Please read!
>
> > These days I am getting a lot of private requests from people/
> > businesses who need consulting development jobs in web2py. This is
> > more than can I can handle. I need to keep track who is available and
> > who is capable so that I can refer those jobs to them.
>
> > Long ago we had discussions on the list about giving a more
> > professional facade to the group (at least some part of the group) so
> > that members could bid for larger contracts as if we were a business.
> > If you think about IBM it is not more than a collection of
> > consultants, exactly as are we. The difference is that in their case
> > the shareholders take a cut of the revenues of the consultants and
> > they have a legal status. We do not.
>
> > One proposed solution was to create a professional organization. We
> > discussed options.
>
> > I came up with this:
>
> >     ------------------
> >    http://www.experts4solutions.com
> >     ------------------
>
> > I registered experts4solutions as an LLC to shield myself from
> > liability and give it a more professional legal status.
>
> > If you have contributed to web2py or have created a public web2py
> > application you are invited to join. By joining you are saying you are
> > willing to work on paid web2py projects and have your work reviewed
> > (by me and other members).
>
> > I will initially review and approve applications until we have a solid
> > core of members who can help draft better rules, improve the page,
> > offer more services.
>
> > The more members the more strict the admission rules will be since
> > they will be revised.
>
> > Let's be clear on this... there is no cost of joining and it does not
> > take any cut in your revenues when you are contacted directly by a
> > client. experts4solutions will provide additional optional services
> > also provided by me and other members. For example you may want to
> > take a contract but you or your client may wants to purchase code
> > review, and/or a long time support contract, and/or something you
> > cannot provide as an individual but we may be able to provide as a
> > group. You can be listed even if you have a company (actually it is
> > better if you have one and your company name will be listed too).
>
> > Eventually this may replace:
>
> >http://web2py.com/examples/default/support
>
> > The point of this is that I am impressed by the expertise I find on
> > this list. Some of the skills you have are hard to find. I want to
> > help you capitalize on it.
>
> > I love working with you guys. web2py is what today keeps us together
> > but web2py is a tool and one day (2100?) it will be replaced by a
> > better one. Yet there is a value in our group and perhaps it may
> > outlive web2py.
>
> > experts4solutions is not a discussion group and will not affect this
> > mailing list.
>
> > Massimo
>
>

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