On Monday, January 10, 2011 6:36:18 AM UTC+2, Anthony wrote: > > On Sunday, January 9, 2011 1:24:02 AM UTC-5, Graham Dumpleton wrote: >> >> You guys really just got to learn to do your own thing and not treating >> it like a crusade where you have to convert the world. >> > > But that's exactly the problem -- web2py is trying to do its own thing, >
...so far so good... > and there is a vocal clique of "Pythonistas" who don't like that thing and > want to stop it. > ...and here we get it wrong. Why should we *care* about this vocal clique? Arguing on reddit and other forums about the minutae of tit-for-tat features is almost entirely pointless. It convinces nobody, *least* of all the newbies who are still trying to decide on which framework to use. And this is something else that bothers me. *Why* should we care how many users we have? It seems to me an entirely pointless objective. I care only about trying to make web2py *my* favourite platform for web apps. In an online "discussion" between proponents of different frameworks, or different *anything* for that matter, there is precious little to be gained from arguing the case. That is just how it is. If we say we just want to do our own thing, then let's do just that. Seriously, going after spurious comments in every reddit or reddit-alike is *harmful*. Getting "the truth" out there has a lot of side effects, and they're not all good. The best, and IMO only real way to promote web2py is to facilitate the building of awesome websites. That is the whole ball game, so let's focus on that. This is, I suppose, obligatory: http://xkcd.com/386/ Graham is in a unique position in that wsgi is used by all the frameworks and so he wears a badge that allows him to move freely between them without carrying any baggage, and he clearly gets to see how each of the communities function. It is important for us to listen to what he has to say, because we will not get such feedback from anywhere else I can think of.
