On Friday, July 8, 2011 3:25:45 AM UTC-4, cjrh wrote: > > On Monday, January 10, 2011 6:36:18 AM UTC+2, Anthony wrote: >> >> On Sunday, January 9, 2011 1:24:02 AM UTC-5, Graham Dumpleton wrote: >>> >>> You guys really just got to learn to do your own thing and not treating >>> it like a crusade where you have to convert the world. >>> >> >> But that's exactly the problem -- web2py is trying to do its own thing, >> > > ...so far so good... > > >> and there is a vocal clique of "Pythonistas" who don't like that thing and >> want to stop it. >> > > ...and here we get it wrong. Why should we *care* about this vocal > clique? > Well, we probably shouldn't care too much, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't care at all. Note, the unfounded criticisms are effectively impugning both the technical and personal integrity of web2py's developers and users, in very public forums. This can have negative professional (and personal) consequences. If you have chosen to build an app with web2py and your client, manager, or investor reads bad things about web2py, you may lose their confidence and favor. So, occassional polite and professional corrections may be appropriate, especially on purely factual misunderstandings (rather than issues of opinion and taste).
> *Why* should we care how many users we have? > Again, this is not the most important thing, but the number of users is not entirely without consequence either. Generally, more users will translate into more expert contributors and volunteers, which will contribute to the development of the framework and its ecosystem and to its long-term sustainability (i.e., more features, better testing and performance, better documentation, more plugins and applications, better support, more third-party hosting and development tool support, etc.). In many cases, when you select a framework, you want some confidence that it will still be actively maintained several years hence, and that confidence will be bolstered if there is a sizable and active community around it. > The best, and IMO only real way to promote web2py is to facilitate the > building of awesome websites. That is the whole ball game, so let's focus > on that. > Absolutely. :-)