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From: Jesse Noller <[email protected]>
Date: 2011/12/13
Subject: Re: [PyCon-Organizers] Web2py is Out Pycon2012
To: Ovidio Marinho <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Ovidio:
Just to be clear; web2py is in no way "banned" from PyCon - neither in the
tutorial or the talk tracks. When tutorials are selected we have to take
into account past popularity and performance.
PyCon loses money on every attendee - we do this on purpose to keep costs
low for attendees as a whole. This is why it's important that when
selecting tutorials we keep an eye out for potential losses. If a tutorial
in the past did not reach a "break even" number of attendees, that fact has
to be accounted for when selecting tutorials in the future.
We also select tutorials based on community feedback - we have data that we
consult from past conferences as well as surveys we perform to gauge the
relative interest the community has in a given subject.
Regular track talks are vetted just as hard - competition is tough between
selected talks, but budget issues do not come into play. Instead, talks can
focus on the much broader view of the community and all of its groups,
tools and aspects.
Once again, thank you for the feedback. I hope to see you in Santa Clara in
March.
Jesse Noller
On Tuesday, December 13, 2011 at 6:22 AM, Ovidio Marinho wrote:
> A great honor to receive your e-mail, with their explanation, and as said
beforePyCon is the most important event for the Python community. Somehow
we cooperate with it or creating something new or reusing things that
already exist in the Python world. We are so upset and not understand how a
tool is featured in ayear for a single performance in 2010, this can be
banned from the big event, things evolve and in the case of web2py effort
has been an evolution for the better.But I understand the hard work of
selection because I'm sure that much good may have been left out even
web2py. But I would like presentations on the Agenda ofthe Committee to
this reservation of jobs that they could not join the Pycon2012, I hope
that the event is more a spectacle to the world of Python.
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> 2011/12/12 Jesse Noller <[email protected] (mailto:[email protected])>
> > Hello Mr. Marinho;
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> > I'm Jesse Noller - chair of the PyCon 2012 and 2013 conferences. First,
I'd like to thank you for your feedback - the entire team appreciates
hearing from the community about the the decisions we make. PyCon is first,
and foremost a conference community, managed by volunteers and community
members.
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> > As for the matter you mention - the lack of a web2py tutorial this year
is not a slight against web2py. I understand that it has been gaining
popularity, and that it has a vociferous and robust community. In the case
of PyCon - we did have a web2py tutorial last year (2010) and it was not
well attended. That, in and of itself is not a terrible thing - as we have
all seen web2py grow in the last year.
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> > However, coupled with the fact we had over 80 tutorials competing for
spots on a schedule that only allows us to have a fraction of that number
on it meant that competition was tight between the tutorials. The team did
their best striking a balance between interesting subjects, and subject
that are of mass appeal and usefulness for a majority of the tutorial
students.
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> > As you know, tutorials are paid-for by the students - each one costs
150$ to attend - and therefore we aim to target tutorials to the widest
parts of the Python community and ecosystem.
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> > I understand Massimo - and other web2py users are upset: I saw the
email sent to the web2py users list by Massimo [1]. Please understand that
we do our best not to focus on a single framework, or library, but rather a
wide cross section of the Python community as a whole.
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> > I encourage you to keep in mind that the main conference talk schedule
is still pending - this represents some 90+ talks over three days on a
large number of topics.
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> > If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/eec9815ea024d208#
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> > > The world list web2py We're wondering why the Framework be out of the
cycle of tutorials. The web2py framework that has evolved over in 2011(
http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source-software/bossie-awards-2011-the-best-open-source-application-development-software-171759-0),
then we would like an explanation as this palusivel eh not good for
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Python community.
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