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</span></a></span> </h1> <p class="darkgray font13"> <span class="sender pipe"><a href="/search?l=webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org&q=from:%22Eric+Seidel%22" rel="nofollow"><span itemprop="author" itemscope itemtype="http://schema.org/Person"><span itemprop="name">Eric Seidel</span></span></a></span> <span class="date"><a href="/search?l=webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org&q=date:20120401" rel="nofollow">Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:28:20 -0700</a></span> </p> </div> <div itemprop="articleBody" class="msgBody"> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <pre>Adding ENABLE, skipping tests, and reverting any non-passing tests, proved complicated. So I've reverted my work on trunk: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/112820">http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/112820</a></pre><pre> and I'll be doing my <iframe seamless> work on GitHub. Interested parties can follow my fork/branch here: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://github.com/eseidel/webkit/compare/master...seamless">https://github.com/eseidel/webkit/compare/master...seamless</a> Thank you all for your feedback. -eric On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Darin Fisher <da...@chromium.org> wrote: > [Oops, I meant to reply on list.] > > I think it is a risky practice for WebKit to have half-baked "webkit" > prefixed > features enabled by default on trunk. It puts the burden on all WebKit > ports > to know which features are half-baked, whereas individual authors of new > features would know best how stable their features are. > > Once a port ships a feature, however baked the feature may be, if it becomes > popular (to some degree), we risk having to support it. I don't think web > developers necessarily understand that they should regard "webkit" prefixed > features as buyer-beware given that there are so many "webkit" prefixed > features that we all tell developers to use. How can developers tell the > difference between the stable ones and unstable ones? > > It seems safest to ENABLE-guard all half-baked features on trunk, vendor > prefixed or otherwise. The only reason to vendor prefix is if there is not > a > stable well established spec with multi-vendor support. In the case of > <iframe seamless>, which seems quite well specified as part of HTML5, > perhaps there is no need to vendor prefix at all? Just hide behind a guard > until it is ready? > > -Darin > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Eric Seidel <e...@webkit.org> wrote: >> >> We certainly could add an ENABLE. My impression is that we have many >> half-baked -webkit- features, and that use there-of is buyer-beware >> anyway? >> >> My expectation is that this may be a rather short implementation >> effort. Ideally I'd be able to finish it next week. Maybe we should >> revisit this question next Friday? >> >> (It's also probably better to discuss this on webkit-dev, but I didn't >> know if you had intended this email as private.) >> >> -eric >> >> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Darin Fisher <da...@chromium.org> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM, Eric Seidel <e...@webkit.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> Per <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.webkit.org/coding/adding-features.html">http://www.webkit.org/coding/adding-features.html</a> >> >> >> >> >> >> I'm working on adding <iframe seamless> support to WebKit. >> >> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#dom-iframe-seamless">http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#dom-iframe-seamless</a> >> >> >> >> Folks interested can follow along at home: >> >> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45950">https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45950</a> >> >> >> >> It's currently accessible only via <iframe webkitseamless> / >> >> iframe.webkitseamless, but once the implementation is complete it will >> >> move to its spec name "seamless". I have no plans to add a feature >> >> define, as it should be on for all ports. >> > >> > >> > Wouldn't it be better to hide the feature from shipping products until >> > it is >> > complete? >> > >> > I realize this complicates testing, but it seems problematic to ship an >> > incomplete >> > feature that websites might end up depending on. Once we ship a vendor >> > prefixed >> > API, if folks start depending on it, we need to keep supporting it. It >> > seems safer to >> > hide the feature until we can ship it unprefixed in this case since the >> > feature is already >> > well known and specified in a standard. >> > >> > -Darin >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Let me know if I can answer any questions! >> >> >> >> -eric >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> webkit-dev mailing list >> >> webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org >> >> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev">http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev</a> >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ webkit-dev mailing list webkit-dev@lists.webkit.org <a rel="nofollow" href="http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev">http://lists.webkit.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/webkit-dev</a> </pre> </div> <div class="msgButtons margintopdouble"> <ul class="overflow"> <li class="msgButtonItems"><a class="button buttonleft " accesskey="p" href="msg18592.html">Previous message</a></li> <li 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