On Aug 3, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
Yes, bringing back the old content from WhyWebObjects is a start.
I think we should also put a list of people using WO, including
their achievements, type of industries (SMB, media, etc.), other
services they provide, etc. This way, it would help each other to
find partners for projects, and to help potential customers for
finding WO people.
I have heard that from several of our clients, "It is hard to find WO
people" (or hard to find them locally).
Chuck
We should have bring back the site two weeks ago and made t-shirts
with the URL for the WWDC :-)
I agree with Jerry as well.
I can get a server back up for the whywebobjects site in the next
couple of days, and could set up the "yet another wiki". ;-) Or
maybe I should wait until after you all get together Monday before
starting any content, and see what ideas come up.
Regards,
Mark
On Aug 3, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Paul Lynch wrote:
There are cases for both approaches, but I prefer Jerry's
suggestion. Perhaps also some of the advocacy content from the
wiki should move to whywebobjects? Assuming, of course, that it
is set up appropriately. Perhaps take the original advocacy
content that was offered and convert it into yet another wiki?
Paul
On 3 Aug 2006, at 18:08, Jerry W. Walker wrote:
I think that the two web sites (whywebobjects.xxx and .../wiki/
Programming:WebObjects) should serve two very different purposes.
The whywebobjects site has, and should continue to, run as an
advocacy site. It's content should include lists of (& links to)
successful deployments, testimonials, comparisons and evidence
of superiority over competing technologies (e.g. RoR) and such.
The .../wiki/Programming:WebObjects pages should focus on
educational content. They should include topics showing how to
do things in WO, educational FAQ lists, resolutions to common
problems and such.
Although I think there's room for overlap between the two (and I
certainly believe that they should link to one another), I also
believe that if either attempts to fulfill the objectives of the
other, it will weaken it in its primary purpose. They should
remain separate and distinct.
Regards,
Jerry
On Aug 3, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Guido Neitzer wrote:
On 03.08.2006, at 17:20 Uhr, Mark Morris wrote:
When I heard that whywebobjects.com had been taken (as I
understand it, just by someone who then wanted to sell it back
at an inflated rate), I registered whywebobjects.org,
whywebobjects.net and whywebobjects.info before the same could
happen to them. I posted a message asking what we should do
with it, what kind of content do we want, should I host it and/
or have Dov put back up the whywebobjects.com stuff, should we
do a wiki site, etc., but at the time didn't get any
feedback. Up until a couple of days ago, there was a
placeholder page asking for content suggestions to be sent to
my email address, but due to an in-progress physical office
location move it'll be a couple of more days before that
machine is back online.
Wouldn't it be best to point it to the WebObjects wiki book?
<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:WebObjects>
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