On 13-Aug-06, at 8:43 AM, Ken Anderson wrote:

Absolutely!

My response was regarding Apple advertising WO, which will never happen. I am totally in favor of community advocacy, and think we can do an awesome job of it.

Agreed.

Arguably Rails has such a huge buzz right now because of it's vocal community as much as the marketing of rubyonrails.org (though that is nicely done).

I know that personally I've been guilty of focusing my efforts on communicating to the community, rather than convincing the rest of the world.

On Aug 13, 2006, at 8:38 AM, Marc Oesch wrote:

Hello,

- ask Apple to give WebObjects the same status it gives the rest of the
product line

Ah - you've hit the nail right on the head. WebObjects is no longer a product, it is a development tool. Do you ever see ads for CoreData or
CoreImage?

Completely agree with you.

- But  few updated links to community sites
from http://www.apple.com/webobjects/resources.html

- and a few updated showcases should be possible for a developer tool, no ?
For  people new on the list, you can pull an old snap from the WO
page with an example of a PDF about the "US navy using WO... " on the
right side...

http://web.archive.org/web/20020802115809/www.apple.com/webobjects/

A similar showcase in 2006 on the iTunes Music Store and/or the Apple
Store would
certainly help in case someone from Apple is reading this list :)

Anyway,my summary opinion is to have Apple provide the minimum (ie.
links) so the community can move forward on its own sites without
waiting for Godot :)

Marc

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