I think it's also noteworthy to mention that WO is not unique in this
at all. You would have exactly the same issues with anything based
on J2EE. JSPs are not dissimilar to WO Templates. Even some
scripting solutions like Ruby on Rails are not immune from this.
You're still going to have programmer specific custom tags within the
UI that a pure web designer will have to work around.
I personally think the real problem is not that HTML is for
designers, but that designers are having to deal with HTML "code."
If the web was build by designers instead of programmers then
designers would not ever see the HTML code.
Designers working in Adobe InDesign never see, or care anything
about, how InDesign keeps track of formatting text and graphics on a
page, nor should they. On the contrary a UI programmer cares very
much about how the system organizes windows and views within those
windows. They need to know specifically how to interact with those
objects from within their code.
So this is not IMHO a failure in any way of WebObjects or any other
solution, it's a failure of the basic design of the Web in general.
So we do the best we can by building good communication and cross
training between coders and designer to work around this fundamental
flaw.
CSS is helping, but it's still to much for the programmer and not
enough for the designer, this is getting better all the time as the
design tools improve. A Web build by the likes of Adobe would have
made it a much difference place than it is today. Designer wouldn't
be dealing with code and there would be a much more distinct divide
between web "pages" and web "applications."
On Mar 29, 2007, at 4:08 PM, Webobjects Developer wrote:
Using WO, how does one separate the web designer from the programmer?
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